Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by carver9
@Darksaint

They must be weakened down to 1% of their power.

And like I've said: prior to being almost entirely drained, WF already started out this arc in a "greatly diminished" state(relative to his full power form, obv.), because he had reduced himself to a 3D body. You lot need to realize that there are essentially 3 different versions/power-levels for WF:

1.) Full power WF(pre-JL#25 conclusion): he created two full-scale multiverses, created the infinitude of Hypertime(and all associated timelines), created the infinities of universes that fell into the Dark Multiverse, and created a "pet"(ie. Barbatos) to endlessly consume those failed universes.

2.) Greatly diminished WF(post-JL#25): his powers were diminished as a result of downgrading himself to a 3D form, but he was still capable of creating entire universes with every swing of his hammer.

3.) Drained WF(JL#37): his powers had been further drained as a result of the merger with his Brothers. In this state he could no longer spark creation-level energies, and again, was SO weak that he could barely even lift his arms. However, he was still powerful enough to one-shot a planet that had been hurled at him by Perpetua(which was logically traveling massively FTL), and specifically open up a portal to mainstream earth in order to save the heroes.

Originally posted by carver9
The mods said they dont want this showing discussed so I'm leaving it be.

Hulkster and Alberto were flagrantly ignoring facts/evidence just to troll. That's why they were told to stop.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Where was this shown

Originally posted by Galan007
100%:

Reed also confirms that Sentry is one of the most powerful beings in the galaxy. 🙂

At the end of the day, it's a planet hurled across the Universe.

It's like saying oh, DS85 is weak against a matchstick.

But hurl that match stick across the universe at me, and.....

I mean, a bullet weighs what, 0.25 ounces (7grams)? Throw that much metal at me, and it'll just bounce off me. Shoot it from a gun, and I'll die.

Originally posted by Philosophía
If you calculate the energy of the velocity a planet hurled across the Universe would have, this feat is nigh-Universal busting - which makes sense, considering he'd have to replicate a smaller but still significantly comparable to the amount of energy to destroy the Universe (which his hammer does) in order to create a smaller portal (....and the planet was hurled by Perpetua)

Perpetua was in universe-44. Hawkgirl and Shayne were stranded in the Promethean Galaxy.

That means Perpetua threw a planet from within the Orrery of Worlds, to the Source Wall... In a single page. none

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I like how destroying a planet used to be a measuring stick to separate certain tiers. Now it ain't shit.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I like how destroying a planet used to be a measuring stick to separate certain tiers. Now it ain't shit.

Originally posted by Galan007
Perpetua was in universe-44. Hawkgirl and Shayne were stranded in the Promethean Galaxy.

That means Perpetua threw a planet from within the Orrery of Worlds, to the Source Wall... In a single page. none

Massively FTL is right. 😖

Ahh Doesn't that just suck..... It's like the writers don't write comics with hard core uptight fact religious debaters in mind 😂

BTW I wasn't trying to lowball, I just went by what the page had said. I KNOW WF is weakened, but I was ONLY arguing about the punch itself not being multiversal. durability and striking does not correlate is what my point is, Thanos dead body tanked a galaxy attack, we're not gonna say that means he can strike with the force of a galaxy. it's two things different but I'll let DC keep doing the job for me. Everytime I point a flaw it's always regarded as a "Trolling" lmao this is why I can't debate with mods, too strict

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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Ahh Doesn't that just suck..... It's like the writers don't write comics with hard core uptight fact religious debaters in mind 😂

BTW I wasn't trying to lowball, I just went by what the page had said. I KNOW WF is weakened, but I was ONLY arguing about the punch itself not being multiversal. durability and striking does not correlate is what my point is, Thanos dead body tanked a galaxy attack, we're not gonna say that means he can strike with the force of a galaxy. it's two things different but I'll let DC keep doing the job for me. Everytime I point a flaw it's always regarded as a "Trolling" lmao this is why I can't debate with mods, too strict

How does that scan prove your point though?

He's massively weakened, and you were saying he was *only* planetary.....

Originally posted by Philosophía
Well, tbh...it still kind of is -- there's at most like a dozen people from mid/herald shown as being capable of doing it, at most [and even then, going balls to the wall]. It's just that, well, certain characters [............large pause..........] have gone far beyond planet busting, so it seems like many of them have.

You are right, I was being somewhat facetious. Somewhat.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Ahh Doesn't that just suck..... It's like the writers don't write comics with hard core uptight fact religious debaters in mind 😂

BTW I wasn't trying to lowball, I just went by what the page had said. I KNOW WF is weakened, but I was ONLY arguing about the punch itself not being multiversal. durability and striking does not correlate is what my point is, Thanos dead body tanked a galaxy attack, we're not gonna say that means he can strike with the force of a galaxy. it's two things different but I'll let DC keep doing the job for me. Everytime I point a flaw it's always regarded as a "Trolling" lmao this is why I can't debate with mods, too strict

Stop making excuses.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Everytime I point a flaw it's always regarded as a "Trolling" lmao this is why I can't debate with mods, too strict

Willfully ignoring blatant evidence/facts is why you're trolling... And you do it all the time.

Just stop.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Batman Universe has some nice feats for the [primitive version of the] White Green Lantern ring and, funnily enough, it seems to be post-DD clock, given we see Golden Age Superman in the main timeline:

^ We also see the Mister Miracle-verse, which was neat.

Figured that was just them hopping into Hypertime, though... mmm

Originally posted by carver9
Seems like all of the brothers are there and World Forger seems to be the only one weakened and it was said that the planet would kill all of them, even the brother that absorbed WF power.

Originally posted by Diesldude
the monitor was weakened as well because the AM had absorbed their energies.

AM was also there and it was said capable of killing him as well and he was the one who absorbed the power.

It was a planet that was thrown across dimensions at....well, pretty high speeds. Why wouldn't it kill?

Also interesting to note two things:

1. Despite being a planet hurled across dimensions, the impact was still only enough energy to create a small gateway. WF with his swings alone is therefore capable of outputting way more energy than that.

2. We haven't seen the after effects yet. We were only shown that WF wasn't sure if any of them would survive the impact.....but we obviously saw Hawkgirl etc surviving.

The brothers three were ALL depowered here... There's no other reason that AM would have feared WF if he, himself, weren't massively weakened.

Remember, what Perpetua essentially did is take the Ultra-Monitor and give primary control over that body/power to AM alone:
https://i.imgur.com/NrjKtXs.jpg

So when that form was split, their powers were split.