Comic Book Questions & Discussion

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And Alberto was pointing to it NOT meaning anything...

Yet how, in a very similar circumstance, he's screaming that it's HULK, lol and definitive proof that Hulk is > Doomsday.

But the other circumstance? Naaah, that's just a little Easter egg that doesn't mean anything.

But keep going with the white knighting. The world is against those two, and you are a shining champion of truth, exposing the nasty double standards of the board.

Double standards, btw, that include global mods literally saying that Carver is a troll, and that it's a common occurrence. But no action is taken against him.


Yeah his position has shifted... just like everyone else's. So apparently they convinced you guys that they were right and you were wrong while you guys simultaneously convinced them that they were wrong lol

@goober, it's saint.... He's a known beta that white knights anybody that disagrees with Carver lmao, that's expected from him. 😂

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah his position has shifted... just like everyone else's.

A mere shift is fine.

This extreme? From it meaning nothing, to meaning definitive proof that a character not even named is definitely > Doomsday?

That's not a mere shift.

And that's why people are upset, to use your terminology, with how much he's pushing it.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@goober, it's saint.... He's a known beta that white knights anybody that disagrees with Carver lmao, that's expected from him. 😂

Oof. 'Beta'. What next, 'cuck'? Lol.

Lets stay on track here, guys... I'd rather things not devolve any further.

Like I said: I do not at all mind people discussing the ambiguous IMPLICATIONS of the Thor/green behemoth reference, so long as you aren't trying to idiotically use that as "official confirmation" that Hulk > Doomsday or w/e.

Any halfway intelligent/logical person can understand why.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A mere shift is fine.

This extreme? From it meaning nothing, to meaning definitive proof that a character not even named is definitely > Doomsday?

That's not a mere shift.

And that's why people are upset, to use your terminology, with how much he's pushing it.


If others were allowed to continue pushing something comparable, then why shouldn't he be allowed to now? I can understand playing both sides of the argument to point out the hypocrisy of one of the sides involved, but at the end of the day one still needs to take a definitive stance on the matter. So were the DC guys doing nothing but being horrible trolls then or now? Can't have it both ways...

Originally posted by darthgoober
And yet, via mod it's comparable. You guys trolled, now your getting trolled... suck it up. Don't dish it if you can't take it...

I'm not sure what's your point. An event recognized as an Easter egg is a vastly different thing than a future crossover which may or may not happen (will most assuredly not).

How's a mod's opinion relevant here?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
DC just teased a crossover with marvel recently, there's no difference with both comparison. DC acknowledges the JLA/Avengers crossover, MARVEL confirmed that the events/canonicity took place in an alternate universe to them

No, they didn't. Unless Jane Thor is from a different universe.

It feels great that I make a bunch of nerds butthurt from a single comment. Yes, go on and cry more about how much my input on fiction damages your mental health . 😂 weirdos.

Mrmind used an easter egg as defnitive proof to confirm it was canon and didn't get a warnining or any sort. Like I say, have the same standards with somebody else. most of you are terrified to confront each other due to HiStoRy of FrIEnDsHip on this site. lmao

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It feels great that I make a bunch of nerds butthurt from a single comment. Yes, go on and cry more about how much my input on fiction damages your mental health . 😂 weirdos.

Mrmind used an easter egg as defnitive proof to confirm it was canon and didn't get a warnining or any sort. Like I say, have the same standards with somebody else. most of you are terrified to confront each other due to HiStoRy of FrIEnDsHip on this site. lmao


Eh, it's amusing how important you think this is. Carry on.

Originally posted by darthgoober
If others were allowed to continue pushing something comparable, then why shouldn't he be allowed to now? I can understand playing both sides of the argument to point out the hypocrisy of one of the sides involved, but at the end of the day one still needs to take a definitive stance on the matter. So were the DC guys doing nothing but being horrible trolls then or now? Can't have it both ways...

The hypocrisy is the point here. That's the trolling.

But as Galan said, let's not derail, so feel free to PM.

Alberto, have fun 🙂. Still doesn't mean anything here on these forums, so if you're not a fan, ah well.

I DO think it's important though, there's been a page now over a single comment i made lmao. YOU get butthurt everytime I say something about Superman. I come on here once in awhile to debunk you on dc for the fun of it, I don't care about you enough to correct you all day and every day like carver does lmao

People do call out other people's stupidity yeah. Doesn't mean it's important, it's just stupidity.

In other news...

Constantine and Lucifer have apparently never met in current canon:

Which means this new continuity is indeed separate from previous/Carey continuity. I wasn't really sure because they introduced the 'Lucifer avatars' concept a few issues ago. So yeah...

Lucifer is distinct form the First of the Fallen righr

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The hypocrisy is the point here. That's the trolling.

But as Galan said, let's not derail, so feel free to PM.

Alberto, have fun 🙂. Still doesn't mean anything here on these forums, so if you're not a fan, ah well.


But the question becomes, who's really demonstrating hypocrisy. Let's say you, your bother, and your mom are going to go somewhere in the car. You call shotgun while still inside the house then your brother runs outside and jumps in the shotgun position and says that your claim is invalid because shotgun has to be called while the vehicle is in sight. You disagree and the two of you argue, but in the end he refuses to move and you end up having to ride in the back seat. Next day same thing happens in reverse, he calls shotgun while inside a building, you run outside and jump in, then he comes out and demands that you get out because you bitched about his actions the day before. Are you a hypocrite for ignoring his call, or is he a hypocrite for expecting you to honor it? Keep in mind, he already got his way the day before and made you ride in the back seat...

👆. We can PM it

Originally posted by MrMind
also wanted to add:

Each era of Superman being preserved, the previous universe/multiverse is preserved becasue of Superman, not the other way around

it goes meta, when Manhattan rebooted the metaverse, he rebooted the entire DC Company, not just one timeline, he fixed all the continuity issues by telling us all these different eras of Superman exist in seperate universes, and we can tell stories of any of them in the future. This was the idea of Jeff King after convergence. But since convergence was shit and nobody care about the writer this idea was dismissed by a lot of people, but it has been DC's goal all along.

https://comicbook.com/2015/05/27/decoding-convergence-with-jeff-king-the-finale/

and you know the funny thing is? Metaverse forms around Superman, DC Comis forms around Superman, it's the story of of the greatest superhero. Superman is hope of mankind, not just in comics but real world too. This hope is the north star of the metaverse. As long as Superman's story exists the metaverse will never end. The DC multiverse will never end, all of these stories are there because of Superman.

From in universe perspective, Presence/Overvoid/Source is the ground zero of the DC's creation

From a meta perspective, Superman is the ground zero of the DC's creation

I think Manhattan pulled off one the greatest feat ever, he rebooted the entire metaverse (dc comics). it was point black here, the entire creation was GONE
https://i.imgur.com/zR2Qk7J.jpg

Ozy was the forgotten hero, he sees what would happen if Manhattan and Superman meet, he saved not only the multiverse but also his own world.

I shed tears on Jon's death he gave all his power to his step son. Before he left the world, he saw what could've been without his God like power. The love of his life, children, family etc... and it was just a dream. He appreciates the beauty of ordinary life as a omnipotent being, and then he's gone.

This was not the best outcome I was hoping for ( I was hoping for composite continuity from 1938-now)

but it's still a beautiful story

This is the only thing that that Manhattan affected. He didn’t merge any timelines. None of the stuff that he “did” is canon. It’s all gone.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And yet, via mod it's comparable. You guys trolled, now your getting trolled... suck it up. Don't dish it if you can't take it...

and you have a history of being so unbiased right darth?

I was joking around with my friend Stilt about that Jane Thor scan, that's why I mentioned Stilt ejaculated 20 times from reading the Wolverine beating Lobo. We don't take DC vs Marvel seriously, we don't care it's canon or not, you guys can decide that one if you care so much. We are all in it for the fun.

this one is different, it's a possible event that hasn't happened that takes place in 2030, in a crossover event that might just be dc parody characters or could be with marvel,

so we are just using a vague implication as concrete evidence? with no mention of how the battle actually will go, no context of who's involving in the battle, how one defeat the other, any prep any help any setting, no drawing of any kind. a vague statement by it's own

You do know what an easter egg is right? it's a joke played by the writers, alberto and carver wanna view it as serious battle performance is well...beyond derpy and nerdy

It would be idiotic to use this as evidence in battle forum, I'm not saying you would, I'm sure some would.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cloaking and shielding an entire planet is pretty hardcore. She'd been doing it for months?

Keeping an entire planet invisible for an extended time is probably pretty taxing. And those blows were one shotting heroes once she let them down. It's impressive any and every which way.

AND he needed all those heroes to hold him still.