Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by SquallX
Prime himself was weakened, and they battled at night were he couldn’t heal due to lack of sunlight.

we also have to remember, Prime was in prison between 1 to 3 months in a jail cell made specifically for him in red sunlight being watched by Green Lanterns.

Prime was so weakened, that his body failed to healed itself from his own self mutilation after multiple sunlight boost.

This is the same Prime who was ragdolling literally everyone in his path the following issue. So if you think the intent was for him to still be depowered there, then damn, you have a much higher opinion of him than even I do. 👆

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Darksaint wants to have anal with Galan's ex?

I have a cannon that I'm going to launch out of when Marvel brings the Beyonder back.
Do you think he'll be angry that they cooked him in a pot full of bat wings and puppy dog tails?

Originally posted by -K-M-
For Rage,
In godhunter #2 BRB hit silver surfer through Skuttlebutt’s hull. Silver surfer was trying to destroy the hull but BRB was absorbing and deflecting the blasts saving the ship so SB didn’t tank his blasts

In Stormbreaker #2 says the ships is almost BRB’s equal

I flipped through the fight but didn't notice Bill knocked Surfer through the Hull. Thanks! Ended up re-reading his recent mini-series.

Good point. Bill in Stormbreaker was beast AF tbh. Who would win in a fight, Bill or Skuttlebutt (No voice commands)? Bill would be incapable of beating the ship without Odin's blessing imho unless limiters were removed. With it? Skuttlebutt definitely has the arsenal to rock Bill but he just can't get past Stormbreaker. The hammer is too powerful of a shield. And Skuttlebutt is a glass canon (To some degree) because once you breach the Hull, he has no meaningful feats of internal defense.

What do you think about what VS wiki put Vertigo setting above DC despite Vertigo comes from DC?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Leviathan_(The_Unwritten)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Enlil_(The_Unwritten)

T'challa is kind of a jerk.

I want to like him, but all the casual murder justifications are kind of a turn off. I mean, that time he hacked Tony Starks pacemaker (So what if future him did it, it was all based on T'challa's plans), or essentially intending to murder Namor.

A moral paragon, he is not. Frankly, Panther skirts that same line between villian Ultimate Reed crossed.

Cute.

You need to stop seeing everything in black & white.

If anything, T'Challa holds back too much.

His methods are fine... his actual sins are things like having the cure for cancer and refusing to share it with anyone or joining the main Avengers team, just so he could spy on them.

Originally posted by cdtm
T'challa is kind of a jerk.

I want to like him, but all the casual murder justifications are kind of a turn off. I mean, that time he hacked Tony Starks pacemaker (So what if future him did it, it was all based on T'challa's plans), or essentially intending to murder Namor.

A moral paragon, he is not. Frankly, Panther skirts that same line between villian Ultimate Reed crossed.

Lol Panther morally is no different from Namor or Doom.

Originally posted by cdtm
T'challa is kind of a jerk.

I want to like him, but all the casual murder justifications are kind of a turn off. I mean, that time he hacked Tony Starks pacemaker (So what if future him did it, it was all based on T'challa's plans), or essentially intending to murder Namor.

A moral paragon, he is not. Frankly, Panther skirts that same line between villian Ultimate Reed crossed.

No worse than Bats, or Stark, or Reed, or any of the 'intelligent' superheroes.

Who is supreme being in entire DC/Vertigo cosmology(everything is canon)?
OverVoid? Leviathan? The Source? Retco? Writer?
I am confused.

Originally posted by Philosophía
He restored what he destroyed, including the future.

This is what's going over your head, no matter how much Galan tries to explain, or Darksaint tries to analogize.

If I snap my finger and erase your timeline from now to your death, then I snap my finger and bring it all back and have it resume where it left off, just because you now live a full life, it doesn't change the fact that I erased it in the first place.

Lets assume Mxy destroyed everything at time t = 0 hours (according to his own wristwatch), and recreated everything at t = 1 hours. This means that at t = 2 hours everything existed again. DC's future point t = 2 hours was, therefore, not destroyed by Mxy. DC's time segment from 0 to 1 hours was destroyed, but that's it: ALL of the DC future was NOT destroyed.

You seem to think that destroying all of present somehow implies all of the future gets destroyed as well, but that is not the case. Whether the future is destroyed or not depends only on whether the future timepoint exists or not -- not on the earlier history. Stuff has existed within DC since Mxy's multiversal erasure; that stuff constitutes DC future which was NOT destroyed by Mxy.

Originally posted by Magnon
Darksaint already conceded that not ALL of the DC future was destroyed, just a small time segment. Let me try to explain this once more:

Lets assume Mxy destroyed everything at time t = 0 hours (according to his own wristwatch), and recreated everything at t = 1 hours. This means that at t = 2 hours everything existed again. DC's future point t = 2 hours was, therefore, not destroyed by Mxy. DC's time segment from 0 to 1 hours was destroyed, but that's it: ALL of the DC future was NOT destroyed.

You seem to think that destroying all of present somehow implies all of the future gets destroyed as well, but that is not the case. Whether the future is destroyed or not depends only on whether the future timepoint exists or not -- not on the earlier history. Stuff has existed within DC since Mxy's multiversal erasure; that stuff constitutes DC future which was NOT destroyed by Mxy.

Erm....no I didn't? I thought you were the one conceding, as your sentence agreed with mine.....

So according to your analogy, what exists at time t=0.5?

Originally posted by Galan007
I think maybe you're confusing things a bit..? Prime and Yat's battle took place after the sun rose and Prime's powers were restored *clap on*:

This is the same Prime who was ragdolling literally everyone in his path the following issue. So if you think the intent was for him to still be depowered there, then damn, you have a much higher opinion of him than even I do. 👆

DarkSaint is a ****ing dirtbag. That's for sure. 👆

I thought Prime fought Yat at night? Then after he beat Yat, the League jumped him.

It’s been years since I read that arc, I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Magnon
Darksaint already conceded that not ALL of the DC future was destroyed, just a small time segment. Let me try to explain this once more:

Lets assume Mxy destroyed everything at time t = 0 hours (according to his own wristwatch), and recreated everything at t = 1 hours. This means that at t = 2 hours everything existed again. DC's future point t = 2 hours was, therefore, not destroyed by Mxy. DC's time segment from 0 to 1 hours was destroyed, but that's it: ALL of the DC future was NOT destroyed.

You seem to think that destroying all of present somehow implies all of the future gets destroyed as well, but that is not the case. Whether the future is destroyed or not depends only on whether the future timepoint exists or not -- not on the earlier history. Stuff has existed within DC since Mxy's multiversal erasure; that stuff constitutes DC future which was NOT destroyed by Mxy.

Yes, let's seriously look into Mxy's feats and analyze the shit out of them.

That's what the character was created for.

Next: Bugs Bunny.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm....no I didn't? I thought you were the one conceding, as your sentence agreed with mine.....

So according to your analogy, what exists at time t=0.5?

You are

Originally posted by Magnon
Mxy, Bat-Mite, and Jay Garrick's helmet.

So at t=0.5, nothing else exists? Apart from the aforementioned 3?

Originally posted by SquallX
I thought Prime fought Yat at night? Then after he beat Yat, the League jumped him.

It’s been years since I read that arc, I could be wrong.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So at t=0.5, nothing else exists? Apart from the aforementioned 3?

Originally posted by Magnon
Correct, if we assume Mxy destroyed everything else at t = 0. (And for the sake of argument, let us indeed assume so.)

So at t=0.5, when Mxy says he's destroyed everything, he's not lying?

I mean, apart from Batmite, Jay's helmet and himself obv.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So at t=0.5, when Mxy says he's destroyed everything, he's not lying?

I mean, apart from Batmite, Jay's helmet and himself obv.

But he also claimed he destroyed all of the future, i.e. everything at t = 1, t = 2, t = 100, and so on. But that was a lie.