Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by MrMind1,926 pages
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
agree,i personally don't think manhatten could achieve mxy highest level,johns really not good at these kinds of stuff.and right now,no any proofs could support mxy state

you hit the nail on this one
Johns can write big bad to a certain level like skyfather to universal abstract, Nekron or Sbp for example, but nothing transcend far beyond that so far, but I'm gonna hold my breath though. He might very well surprise me on this one

I didn't know Johns was allowed to write swearing now. Good stuff.

Originally posted by MrMind
you hit the nail on this one
Johns can write big bad to a certain level like skyfather to universal abstract, Nekron or Sbp for example, but nothing transcend far beyond that so far, but I'm gonna hold my breath though. He might very well surprise me on this one
Yeah, there's still more than enough time for Johns to really solidify Manhattan as THE most powerful being in DC, period... Even a comment from Superman(ie. "this guy is even more powerful than Mxy!!"😉 would do. We'll see.

That said, I do like how Manhattan deconstructed the heroes' "magic" in this issue, lol. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, there's still more than enough time for Johns to really solidify Manhattan as THE most powerful being in DC, period... Even a comment from Superman(ie. "this guy is even more powerful than Mxy!!"😉 would do. We'll see.

That said, I do like how he deconstructed the heroes' "magic", lol. 👆

Johns has always been good at "concepts" imo. The emotional spectrum, for example. And then what he did with death and Nekron. It's no surprise to me that he'd do something like that with magic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now imagine if Superman punches him out. Comicvine will explode along with Carver trying to find a way to lowball it.
Many forums would explode. It would be the single most debated topic on comic forums in years outside of DCEU vs MCU.

Originally posted by Galan007
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That said, I do like how Manhattan deconstructed the heroes' "magic" in this issue, lol. 👆

using science to mock magic lol, usually it's the other way around

I know there's way more potential to explore the magic side, it's still cool to see the science side of DC getting the respect

Originally posted by -Pr-
Johns has always been good at "concepts" imo. The emotional spectrum, for example. And then what he did with death and Nekron. It's no surprise to me that he'd do something like that with magic.
👆

Manhattan also noted that he found the emotional energy of Lantern rings "difficult to effect."

...But he said that as he was casually manipulating Guy's GL energies and evaporating his ring, so it seems like "difficult" is a relative term for Manny, lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
👆

Manhattan also noted that he found the emotional energy of Lantern rings "difficult to effect."

...But he said that as he was casually manipulating Guy's GL energies and evaporating his ring, so it seems like "difficult" is a relative term for Manny, lol.

👆

Him acting like a curious kid, as he was getting familiar with new types of energy was amazing.

The way he no-sold and then "you call this magic?" the mages, was ridiculous.

Originally posted by playa1258
Many forums would explode. It would be the single most debated topic on comic forums in years outside of DCEU vs MCU.
I don't think it will be nearly as cut and dry as "Superman right hooks Manhattan, ftw!!!!" I'd imagine there will be some sort of underlying plot/context that allows Superman to stand against him to any degree.

...Or at least, I *hope* it's not that simple. But as Manhattan said in this issue:

So we'll see. ermm

You don’t know that
Superman has 5d energy

Originally posted by Phil
Him acting like a curious kid, as he was getting familiar with new types of energy was amazing.

The way he no-sold and then "you call this magic?" the mages, was ridiculous.

"You all believe you're wielding 'magic'? [...] I must preform a deeper analysis."

😂

Was that Flex Mentallo?

And yes, I think it was cool that the 5D imps have been watching over Bats/Supes. Could explain some of their more....outlier showings.

Could explain?
Man it makes perfect sense
They have guardian angels that are likely above any other being in DCU

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was that Flex Mentallo?
Where?

Manhattan>>>>Superman.

Originally posted by Galan007
👆

Manhattan also noted that he found the emotional energy of Lantern rings "difficult to effect."

...But he said that as he was casually manipulating Guy's GL energies and evaporating his ring, so it seems like "difficult" is a relative term for Manny, lol.

which means it wasnt difficult for him at all nothing is. toying with a top gl like that is insane

Manhattan doesn't seem all powerful. Definitely seems below Mxy.

But he also seems to be learning, adapting, and has basically no form. Hence the problem with comic characters, we've seen so many Gods utterly tank anything the humans put out that you can't write a God that is currently ignorant of what he faces, and write it down to a more reasonable level. And I'm a big fan of grounded portrayals to get the story out, but the featsters won't like it.

But I will say that if he maintains this portrayal, it will be hard to put him above the Mxys even if they hammer us over the head with it. Grounded portrayals of omnipotence be damned. Comics have gotten so oneupsmanship that if you don't play the game, your message gets jumbled. Though I do think that little itch in the back of our heads with the Myx/Oz thing would have been better if it never happened. DM comes out of the blue to DC with no prior interaction for example. We could have reasoned DM from Watchmen could have done what he's done instead of the New DC Manhattan who's the best ever.

srug

Also funny how Doomsday Clock opens up like a house on fire when we do finally get to the one thing everyone wanted at the start; Dr Manhattan.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
which means it wasnt difficult for him at all nothing is. toying with a top gl like that is insane
It's cool and all, but if you're insinuating that it helps build a case for Manhattan being superior to Mxy, it doesn't.

From this weeks JL:

F*cking with Lantern energy is less than nothing to Mxy.

Originally posted by Galan007
Where?

With the Doom Patrol:

..............

While weakened