Comic Book Questions & Discussion

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, I'm neutral about Hercules. Just don't get the appeal of the character.

The bravado, swagger, and ability to back it up.

In other words, he's Marvel's Guy Gardner.

Originally posted by cdtm
and ability to back it up

Darksaint, stop being weird.

Carver, stop being black.

I get lost in your beautiful eyes when you are in that wife beater

truly magnificent art

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
carver9 is like a pokemon Mungi feels he must protect.

Carver9 will evolve into Carver9.5.

Then no one will be laughing

You realize Carver(new version) jokes are literally a few years old? 😛

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You realize Carver(new version) jokes are literally a few years old? 😛

That’s intentional. We all need a reset sometime

Ah.

True, true.

Originally posted by carver9
Darksaint, stop being weird.

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Neither of the Atlas feats are impressive in terms of strength.

They're both like Hercs, imo

Originally posted by Philosophía
Neither of the Atlas feats are impressive in terms of strength.

Why is the Supes version not impressive?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Why is the Supes version not impressive?
It's all metaphysical, there's no actual weight of the heavens they're holding -- since the heavens aren't actually free falling. In Hercules' case, Atlas and him are magical border patrol agents that Zeus drew alongside Pluto and Poseidon to split their territories [Make Olympus Great Again] -- whose center changes depending on which nation is most influential (atlantis, usa etc.) and puts Atlas in that place as the anchor. In Superman's case, it's a metaphysical burden of him bearing the responsibility of everything on his shoulders.

They're cool thematically -- but not as actual feats.

Originally posted by Philosophía
It's all metaphysical, there's no actual weight of the heavens they're holding -- since the heavens aren't actually free falling. In Hercules' case, Atlas and him are magical border patrol agents that Zeus drew alongside Pluto and Poseidon to split their territories [Make Olympus Great Again] -- whose center changes depending on which nation is most influential (atlantis, usa etc.) and puts Atlas in that place as the anchor. In Superman's case, it's a metaphysical burden of him bearing the responsibility of everything on his shoulders.

They're cool thematically -- but not as actual feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I mean -- *cough* -- sorry -- Superman lifted the heavens themselves and kept everything from crashing down, which is an impossible weight. All literally stated on panel.

You can see Superman holding the panels themselves on his shoulders so Superman can shoulder press the entire DCU on a metafictional level.

Originally posted by Parmaniac

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Originally posted by Philosophía
It's all metaphysical, there's no actual weight of the heavens they're holding -- since the heavens aren't actually free falling. In Hercules' case, Atlas and him are magical border patrol agents that Zeus drew alongside Pluto and Poseidon to split their territories [Make Olympus Great Again] -- whose center changes depending on which nation is most influential (atlantis, usa etc.) and puts Atlas in that place as the anchor. In Superman's case, it's a metaphysical burden of him bearing the responsibility of everything on his shoulders.

They're cool thematically -- but not as actual feats.


I disagree, the physical weight is an actual point in the comic with Superman complaining of the weight while he lifts the heavens.

Sounds like an outerversal feat for Supes. Way more impressive than if it had a measurable weight.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
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I disagree, the physical weight is an actual point in the comic with Superman complaining of the weight while he lifts the heavens.
Ok.

You have the actual statements supporting that, and we also see Superman lifting the panels themselves, so his strength transcends everything to metafiction.

I actually support you doing this, since I know it makes the trolls cry 👆

And unlike in Hercules case where we clearly know otherwise, here it's specifically a point that everything would collapse if he didn't hold it.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Sounds like an outerversal feat for Supes. Way more impressive than if it had a measurable weight.
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I'm not joking though. 😎