Comic Book Questions & Discussion

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Originally posted by Galan007
What I'm saying is that *who* created the multiverse is irrelevant. A feat within that multiverse is a feat within that multiverse regardless.

That being said, it's still possible that there is some deeper tomfoolery going on here, so I won't at all be surprised if all of this end up being BS anyway... But as of right now it's still up in the air. /shrug

Yeah,Still have possible those feats will be invalid since this story not finished.But as far as the comic indicate,NO any solid evidence to proves it not valid.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
they were a part of the World he created. They were a part of the facade. It was all an lie, are you serious?

Nope,world forger obviously states this future is real
And I posted this scan from the start
"Even you,diana,have never experienced truth as pure as this place"
https://i.imgur.com/omhOsNt.jpg
AND,later I also posted interview made this more convincible
Nrama: So this is more than just cool, future costumes. This is, like, what happens years down the line when a certain story unfolds for these characters?Snyder: Yeah. It’s a really, for me, fully developed, fully realized future DCU.So you’ll see the characters in this DCU say, “This is why you have to create this future. It’s the only way to save the Multiverse. Let us show you why you have to do it, and how good it will be if you do.”

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
they were a part of the World he created. They were a part of the facade. It was all an lie, are you serious?
ZH Parallax mucked with all universes/timelines within the mainstream multiverse. The Presence/Perpetua created said multiverse along with every one/thing in it... So does that diminish Hal's feat, iyo?

Yes or no is all I'm looking for here.

Originally posted by Galan007
ZH Parallax mucked with all universes/timelines within the mainstream multiverse. The Presence/Perpetua created said multiverse... So does that diminish Hal's feat, iyo?

Yes or no is all I'm looking for here.

His logical is:Because world forger created this place,So this place is a lie.
Even though World forger denied it,Snyder said this DCU is real.

Originally posted by Galan007
ZH Parallax mucked with all universes/timelines within the mainstream multiverse. The Presence/Perpetua created said multiverse along with every one/thing in it... So does that diminish Hal's feat, iyo?

Yes or no is all I'm looking for here.

i'm not saying that the world was fake! I'm saying that Jon and Barry has nothing to do with making said universe.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
His logical is:Because world forger created this place,So this place is a lie.
Even though World forger denied it,Snyder said this DCU is real.
Yeah.

As mentioned, this could all end up being one giant ruse that was created to try and trick the heroes...or it might not. As of right now, we don't know either way.

...But the Anvil is trying preach like he's got the one and only incontrovertible truth. If he isn't carver, he's got to be related.

John and Wally Bartholomew Jay where said to be rebuilding the multiverse..
Meaning said multiverse was already layed out...

He's forged everything Carver's ever cut anything with.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
John and Wally Bartholomew Jay where said to be rebuilding the multiverse..
Meaning said multiverse was already layed out...
A multiverse simply means infinite universes. Flash and John were supposedly adding worlds TO those universes... John even mentioned "EXPANDING" the multiverse.

What's not computing here?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
John and Wally Bartholomew Jay where said to be rebuilding the multiverse..
Meaning said multiverse was already layed out...
A multiverse already exist,And someone expanding and rebuilding it.
This isn't too hard to understand
Like,one person built a building,Then someone else take over this job,And build this building bigger.

Originally posted by Galan007
A multiverse simply means infinite universes. Flash and John were supposedly adding worlds TO those universes... John even mentioned "EXPANDING" the multiverse.

What's not computing here?

Ok, but this whole thing was created by one person and that was forger 😛

What does "I built it"mean to you?

Again: World Forger "building" the multiverse doesn't preclude the notion that Flash and John could still be adding worlds TO that multiverse.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Ok, but this whole thing was created by one person and that was forger 😛

What does "I built it"mean to you?

Which just mean JLT more powerful since White superman actually is one of JLT members
But seriously.He this sentence was mean DC main multivese,Not this multiverse
"This moment is the beginning of the end in every multiverse i have explored."
"ruined"
""breaking the source wall!allowing perpetua to wake?!"
What does that three sentences mean to you?(especially world forger used "ruined"😉
And think about:If world forger reference this multiverse,Why world forger said "ruined".JL haven't doing anything in this period.Hell,World forger even want recruting them

Originally posted by Galan007
Again: World Forger "building" the multiverse doesn't preclude the notion that Flash and John could still be adding worlds TO that multiverse.

The fact that it’s a lie Galan..
They were lying, they never expanded on anything. That is the point of the story. Create a believable story for the JL to get behind. That’s how the Multiverse can become real.

Could very well end up being the case. But as of RIGHT NOW, it's still up in the air... We don't even know what the actual facts are yet.

Simple.

"Even you,diana,have never experienced truth as pure as this place"
"I always intended to reveal myself.But first I wanted you to see this universe,to understand it without being intimidated by my true face"
https://i.imgur.com/omhOsNt.jpg
He said very clear.He want JL see this universe,and understanding what they will do to let the world become better place.
And later,he even said
"It could have evolved into a justice formation far greater than this one.now our only hope is to make it something fast and brutal.Or everyone dies when we reach the judges"
https://i.imgur.com/FXmrUPV.jpg
Which mean he really think this timeline is better than the original timeline
And if JL don't do the same thing as the world forger suggesting,To insurance this timeline become main timeline
Then multiverse will die
And yes,maybe eventually you will be right all along.But as far as the comic indicate,your opinion haven't solid proofs

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
they were a part of the World he created. They were a part of the facade. It was all an lie, are you serious?

The Flash (Future) still collapsed Hypertime, which is an insane feat.

BTW, it seems that the future league are pretty much way above the current league. Shane (Martian Manhunter's son) basically got past current Martian Manhunter's mental defenses like it was nothing.

I will post these scans and leave it at that. He says I will explain the truth about everything. That means that what exist is all a lie

Here Superman says you can’t keep fooling my friends. Meaning, it’s a lie

Here Shane again says I will share what this place is. Meaning it’s a lie

Are you our messiah?