Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by MrMind
no he doesnt dont be ridiculous

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not necessarily. Could be a mental thing.

Hyperion fighting black Nighthawk is a nice example.

It's loud as f*ck, blinds you... more than enough to trigger such a response.

Cain still remembers what was like to be human, after all.

We haven't seen feats like the d'spayre stuff in ages.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not necessarily. Could be a mental thing.

Hyperion fighting black Nighthawk is a nice example.

Not impossible.

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It's actually a fairly common thing in comics.

https://i.imgur.com/iJqDki6.jpeg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Superman is not truly invulnerable, either.

Nobody really is, not even Brit from Image.

Adam Destine.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's loud as f*ck, blinds you... more than enough to trigger such a response.

Cain still remembers what was like to be human, after all.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://i.imgur.com/iJqDki6.jpeg

False equivalency.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Not impossible.

No, Stilt, you're not getting it. This conversation is really about how other characters stack up to Superman.

peaches

😂

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, Stilt, you're not getting it. This conversation is really about how other characters stack up to Superman.

peaches

Not even you believe that.

This discussion was about Juggernaut's absolute invulnerability, I just gave an example of how someone who is not considered absolutely invulnerable has better feats than Juggy does.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If you register pain, you're not invulnerable.
Yeah, like I said, unproven theories.

Yeah no Not a theory

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what happened. Also Juggernaut was hurt by a chandelier in the eye.

Irrelevant, Cain was confirmed to be holding back for years just like Hulk

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah no Not a theory

Doesn't mean that is the case here. Different writer, different times.

Until its explicitly shown he is weakened we can't assume he is.

Colossusnaut was not made weaker just because he was a hero.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Doesn't mean that is the case here. Different writer, different times.

Until its explicitly shown he is weakened we can't assume he is.

Colossusnaut was not made weaker just because he was a hero.

History:
- Changed his ways and wanted to do good ending in Xmen Unlimited #13
--> Weakened
- Changed his ways and tried to do good at the end of 8th day and into Avengers 1998 #24/25
--> Weakened leading into Xmen Forever #1-6 (2001)
- Changed his ways and tried to be good from Uncanny Xmen #410-465
--> Weakened
- Again from New Excaliber #1 to WWH XMEN #2
Weakened in Amazing Spiderman #629
- Struggles with considering to maybe do good with Thunderbolts #144-157
- Still weakened

EVERY moment I mentioned has been (different writers) and (different times), and all were still on the same track.
If Cyttorak is still his master here, Its absolutely reasonable and perfectly logical to assume the power nerf due to consistency. Until it's directly explained otherwise, I see no reason to not stand by this arguement, period.

Colossus isn't Cain, We've had consistent redemption arcs with Cain and this very same struggle, we haven't with Colossus.