Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Juggy TANKED being inside of Oblivion for over 1 year until he STOPPED giving into his rage/hate. The most Oblivion was able to do in that instance was age Juggy to death and remove spellcasting knowledge from Juggy's mind. It wasn't until the storyline where Juggy became a Cap U that we saw Juggy (Cain Marko) cast a combo of spells to recreate his helmet.

"Most Oblivion could do was kill him". That's impressive.

Juggy's Armor, itself, has tanked Logan's adamantium laced claws. That's something that Thor, the Thing, the Hulk, Gladiator, Colossus, and even Terminus (who wrecked Supes in the JLA/Avengers series) can't tank.:

Terminus wrecked Superman, huh? And Wolverine has cut Juggernaut's armor just fine recently.

Aunlike Supes, a Non-Weakened Juggy has UNLIMITED Stamina. Supes stores of solar radiation would get exhausted in a fight against Juggy w/out BFR. And as confirmed by Cytorrak himself, Juggy (Cain Marko) gets stronger and tougher the more he gives into his own hate/anger. As an avatar he's as powerful as his patron dictates. So at max power he's going to be as tough to crack as Cyttorak himself.

And the stats do match what the comics shows

Except nobody has unlimited stamina and Juggernaut has been exhausted against other exemplers just fine.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Unstable, sure.

Amped beyond Cage? Maybe, but not likely, as the repeated gunfire from Maverick worked just fine and it was when Warhawk was upgraded.

Took a long time for Claremont to fully establish Wolverine's powerset, including adamantium's properties.

Maverick's used H.E.A.T., titanium, and Hollowpoint rounds and has had access to depleted uranium rounds, too.

In the case of Warhawk, tbh, it was bad writing. But from the looks of the fight between him and Logan, you can say the slashes were glancing blows since we do see him actively evading and/or rolling with the strikes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
"Most Oblivion could do was kill him". That's impressive.

Terminus wrecked Superman, huh? And Wolverine has cut Juggernaut's armor just fine recently.

Except nobody has unlimited stamina and Juggernaut has been exhausted against other exemplers just fine.

that was an perm weakened Juggy that Logan cut.

The exemplars are each Avatars of members of the Octessence just like Juggy is an Avatar of Cyttorak (who is a member of the Octessence). Each of those Avatars can actually damage and/or hax Juggy even when he's NOT weakened. It's a part of the power sets of each of those Avatars. For example, the Avatar of Watoomb can hax Juggy's momentum. The Avatar of Ikkon can hax Juggy's mind even when he's wearing the helmet. Even the Godly Aspect of Watoomb was shown countering the Godly Aspect of Cyttorak in a Dr. Strange issue that was a precursor to the War of 7 Spheres event.

Originally posted by MrMind
Diesldude, how's life my homie

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
that was an perm weakened Juggy that Logan cut.

No.

It was when Juggernaut regained his full power.

But damaging his armor has never been deemed as impressive as piercing his flesh... aside from outliers such as Feral doing it to his forearm.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No.

It was when Juggernaut regained his full power.

But damaging his armor has never been deemed as impressive as piercing his flesh... aside from outliers such as Feral doing it to his forearm.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No.

It was when Juggernaut regained his full power.

But damaging his armor has never been deemed as impressive as piercing his flesh... aside from outliers such as Feral doing it to his forearm.

Hm, mind showing the scans?

This is a Weakened Juggy:

Weakened Juggy.

[url=https://postimg.cc/BXvvjL38]

even in Fear Itself: The Worthy #2, Cain HIMSELF confirmed that Cyttorak had been gradually weakening him as a punishment for accepting the Cap U power. He accepted that Cap U power back in Amazing Spider-Man Vol.1 #629.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
This is a Weakened Juggy:

This is fan art, you imbecile.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

Weakened Juggy.

Full power, as it happens after WWH/X-Men and before his depowerement.

😂 berserker Stilt

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
that was an perm weakened Juggy that Logan cut.

The exemplars are each Avatars of members of the Octessence just like Juggy is an Avatar of Cyttorak (who is a member of the Octessence). Each of those Avatars can actually damage and/or hax Juggy even when he's NOT weakened. It's a part of the power sets of each of those Avatars. For example, the Avatar of Watoomb can hax Juggy's momentum. The Avatar of Ikkon can hax Juggy's mind even when he's wearing the helmet. Even the Godly Aspect of Watoomb was shown countering the Godly Aspect of Cyttorak in a Dr. Strange issue that was a precursor to the War of 7 Spheres event.

It wasn't some hax you idiot. They were rocking him with just energy blasts enough to vaporize tons of steel.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
This is a Weakened Juggy:

Weakened Juggy.

[url=https://postimg.cc/BXvvjL38]

even in Fear Itself: The Worthy #2, Cain HIMSELF confirmed that Cyttorak had been gradually weakening him as a punishment for accepting the Cap U power. He accepted that Cap U power back in Amazing Spider-Man Vol.1 #629.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
This is fan art, you imbecile.

Full power, as it happens after WWH/X-Men and before his depowerement.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
This is fan art, you imbecile.

Full power, as it happens after WWH/X-Men and before his depowerement.

Except he wasn't depowered right after that. He was gradually perm weakened by Cyttorak as punishment for accepting the Cap U power. Cain confirms it in Fear Itself: The Worthy #2. So, Feral and Logan NEVER cut a Non-Weakened Juggy without prep and/or help.

Did Albert just use fanart 😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

It wasn't some hax you idiot. They were rocking him with just energy blasts enough to vaporize tons of steel.
LMAO

😂 YEAH and Just like the Juggy, each of the Exemplars are Avatars of a member of the Octessence. Thus, each are basically equal to Juggy in power in regards to their own respective power set.
even the Godly Aspect of Cyttorak was having problems against the Godly Aspect of Watoomb. So,the Exemplars wrecking Juggy doesn't diminish his durability feats whatsoever.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Except he wasn't depowered right after that. He was gradually perm weakened by Cyttorak as punishment for accepting the Cap U power. Cain confirms it in Fear Itself: The Worthy #2. So, Feral and Logan NEVER cut a Non-Weakened Juggy without prep and/or help.

You realize that Wolverine scan (not the fan art, the second one you posted) happened a year BEFORE the Captain Universe arc...?

Same with Feral, who cut him back during his Classic days, before his first depowerement ever.

Why are you so obtuse, Albert?

He prob just copy/pasted something again

Yeah, now is the time to talk about something else. The conversation isn't going anywhere.

In Xof Swords, is there a reason why Nightcrawler isn't one of the swordsmen?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In Xof Swords, is there a reason why Nightcrawler isn't one of the swordsmen?

Nightcrawler never had a special/named sword, did he?

Anyway, he is shown on the teaser art, so maybe they'll "add" him later?

I'm just guessing, haven't gotten to read it yet.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Nightcrawler never had a special/named sword, did he?

Anyway, he is shown on the teaser art, so maybe they'll "add" him later?

I'm just guessing, haven't gotten to read it yet.

No, but...Storm has a sword, and she had to steal it from Wakanda, and it was a brand new sword no BP/X-men continuity had ever mentioned (i.e. its supposedly incredibly old, but was created just for this storyline).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, but...Storm has a sword, and she had to steal it from Wakanda, and it was a brand new sword no BP/X-men continuity had ever mentioned (i.e. its supposedly incredibly old, but was created just for this storyline).

Yeah, I saw the list of those "swordsmen".

Like I said, shouldn't be too late to add some more of them (or replace the existing wielders).