Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
😂 So you didn't have any proof that Thawne wasn't trying to kill Superman
I guess preventing himself getting killed wasn't a good motivation?Or are you trying to say Thawne had some no killing code? Wait, That was Superman since we actually saw him saving Thawne, Who was a homicide maniac that killed millions

Yeah except Thawne is an expert killer. He also studied Flash, the JL and Superman for countless years. He KNOWS dropping rocks on him wont kill him, this is further backed up when Thawne states he should leave before Supes can recover. He also knows mere punches isnt going to kill him, yet we see him punching him. Why? Because his intent wasnt to kill, it was to get away.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And in this scan, Thawne buried Supes under rocks and was attempting to leave, not kill him. More proof that he wasnt fighting all out and wasnt out to kill him.

Very next page we see Thawne blitz him and PUNCH him, not try to kill himmvia phasing, atomization, hyperaging, etc. He had a clear chance to do any of these things and decided just to punch him, not kill.

hit me a pm and i'll help you with your reading comprehension.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Or just because Thawne knows that he will got phucked when Superman land a solid punch so he was trying to keep distance or trying to escape
"Can't let him land a solid punch.I'd be out in one.
https://ibb.co/zGxRNxH
Again, I don't remember since when Thawne had a no killing code 🙂

Thawne instantly killed Captain Cold by phasing his heart. Instantly killed Sinestro by breaking his skull. Instantly killed the Hooded dude by phasing his arm through his brain. Instantly killed Enchantress by Hyper-Aging her and removing her head. Instantly killed Cyborg by atomizing him. Instantly killed 1,000 of Aquaman's warriors. Instantly killed Aquaman by blitzing him and impaling his heart with his trident. Instantly killed Joe Chill and saved the Waynes. .But took NO lethal action against Superman, because he didnt want to kill him then and there, it didnt serve him. Just like he had Thomas Wayne dead to rights and could have offed him then and there and chose not to. Thawne pick and chose who he wanted to kill depending on whether or not it benefitted his plans.

It was a good fight. I wouldnt give any credit to the ft because this is by far the slowest Zoom in any comic and the sad thing is, he was amped. This isnt a great showing for either of the characters tbh. We've seen a fight between the real Superman vs the real Zoom and Supes got dropped before he even realized what was going on.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah except Thawne is an expert killer. He also studied Flash, the JL and Superman for countless years. He KNOWS dropping rocks on him wont kill him, this is further backed up when Thawne states he should leave before Supes can recover. He also knows mere punches isnt going to kill him, yet we see him punching him. Why? Because his intent wasnt to kill, it was to get away.

Thawne was about to kill Thomas but decided against it and let him live:

Thawne even told the President he wasnt going to kill him until he was done using him to fulfill his goal. the entire story Thawne was tactfully killing or sparing people's lives. Learn how to read

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Or because he knew himself had no chance against Superman 😛
"I didn't see it coming"
"Fighting a kryptonian is a whole other level than anybody else in this world. The amazon and aquaman don't even come close"
https://ibb.co/NFydDpv
https://ibb.co/NNMjhbD
And Superman actually blitzed Thawne in the scans. Thawne even stated he didn't see it coming 😆

😂 Of course he didnt see it coming. He wasnt even looking.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Thawne instantly killed Captain Cold by phasing his heart. Instantly killed Sinestro by breaking his skull. Instantly killed the Hooded dude by phasing his arm through his brain. Instantly killed Enchantress by Hyper-Aging her and removing her head. Instantly killed Cyborg by atomizing him. Instantly killed 1,000 of Aquaman's warriors. Instantly killed Aquaman by blitzing him and impaling his heart with his trident. Instantly killed Joe Chill and saved the Waynes. .But took NO lethal action against Superman, because he didnt want to kill him then and there, it didnt serve him. Just like he had Thomas Wayne dead to rights and could have offed him then and there and chose not to. Thawne pick and chose who he wanted to kill depending on whether or not it benefitted his plans.

if Thawne was gonna kill Supes he would have phased his brain. Hell, Thomas Wayne killed him with a Kryptonite bullet to the head so of course atomizing his brain would have killed him. And again, Thawne blitzed the **** out of Supes and had several opportunities to kill him if he wanted to but superman fanboys wouldn't post that 😂

MUsT MaKe SUPeRmAN lOok GooD!

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Thawne was about to kill Thomas but decided against it and let him live:

Thawne even told the President he wasnt going to kill him until he was done using him to fulfill his goal. the entire story Thawne was tactfully killing or sparing people's lives. Learn how to read

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Of course he didnt see it coming. He wasnt even looking.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So again, What is the reason for Thawne didn't try to kill Superman( If he had the chance)? Thawne didn't kill Thomas because he want to torture him. Thawne didn't kill the president because he had use for him. Both incidents Thawne had reason not to kill those kill. But Thawne was very willingly to kill
He was a merciless murderer. And there is no reason for him to hold back when facing Superman that guy who was a threat to thawne

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Or because Superman just that powerful and fast that Thawne couldn't beat him like others, As the comic constantly trying to show you
"I don't think they tested him anywhere near his limits. Don't think they dared to, But HE MIGHT BE AS FAST AS THAWNE. Certainly strong and potentially indestructible. Gives him an advantage"
https://ibb.co/L52ggtB
"We're going to release another being with power--Maybe even GREATER than Thawne or the others'
https://ibb.co/jRC0tqk

😂 Haha stop it, Thawne had MULTIPLE opportunities to phase through Superman and didnt. Thawne doesnt just kill for no reason. There is a purpose for his kills. Thawne had the perfect chance to end Superman dozens of times and chose not to. He just wanted to escape. Why? Because killing him didnt serve him. Did you forget the part of the story where Thawne could literally feel how events are supposed to play out? If he had just up and killed Superman that wouldnt have shifted things in his favor. It would just be one more thing Thawne would have to backtrack and fix. The ENTIRE comic is about Thawne picking and choosing who to kill in order for things to pan out the way he wanted. Tempus was even speaking on how Thawne was reshaping reality to suit his needs. And in the end, BECAUSE he didnt kill Superman, he was able to create his own paradise that eve Tempus couldnt intervene in AND created his own extended Justice League with his own Superman fighting for him. A far better outcome for Thawne than just killing Flashpoint Supes with no planning or thought behind it.

Hell, Thawne even explained that the reason why Barry isnt as good of a Time Manipulator is because Barry acts without thinking. Thawne thinks and plans EVERYTHING. Why? Because he has to calculate any and all possibilities and consequences of his actions.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
if Thawne was gonna kill Supes he would have phased his brain. Hell, Thomas Wayne killed him with a Kryptonite bullet to the head so of course atomizing his brain would have killed him. And again, Thawne blitzed the **** out of Supes and had several opportunities to kill him if he wanted to but superman fanboys wouldn't post that 😂

MUsT MaKe SUPeRmAN lOok GooD!

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Haha stop it, Thawne had MULTIPLE opportunities to phase through Superman and didnt. Thawne doesnt just kill for no reason. There is a purpose for his kills. Thawne had the perfect chance to end Superman dozens of times and chose not to. He just wanted to escape. Why? Because killing him didnt serve him. Did you forget the part of the story where Thawne could literally feel how events are supposed to play out? If he had just up and killed Superman that wouldnt have shifted things in his favor. It would just be one more thing Thawne would have to backtrack and fix. The ENTIRE comic is about Thawne picking and choosing who to kill in order for things to pan out the way he wanted. Tempus was even speaking on how Thawne was reshaping reality to suit his needs. And in the end, BECAUSE he didnt kill Superman, he was able to create his own paradise that eve Tempus couldnt intervene in AND created his own extended Justice League with his own Superman fighting for him. A far better outcome for Thawne than just killing Flashpoint Supes with no planning or thought behind it.

Hell, Thawne even explained that the reason why Barry isnt as good of a Time Manipulator is because Barry acts without thinking. Thawne thinks and plans EVERYTHING. Why? Because he has to calculate any and all possibilities and consequences of his actions.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Wait, So are you trying to argue that Thawne had some no killing code 😆
The villains and heroes that Thawne mercilessly killed say hi to you
Thawne didn't kill the president or thomas because he had use for them, not because he unwilling to kill. IOW, If Thawne didn't kill you, he probably had some use for you not because he was unwilling to kill. He would willing to kill any other guy unless he had some use for them

exept I never said he had a No Killing rule. I said that he doesnt just randomly kill people. He kills to suit his needs. He was trying to create the perfect reality for himself which involved planning and careful execution. dude had a drawn out explanation as to why he is a Master at Time Travel and History Alteration. And it was because unlike Barry, Thawne is careful about what he does. If he just went and killed everyone on a whim, history wouldnt pan out the way he planned. If he had randomly killed Supes his plan would have ultimately failed. simple as that

The ONLY reason Thawne was able to win in the end and create his perfect reality is because he didnt go around killing just anyone. That would have altered history against what he was trying to do. Thomas was destined to kill Superman, not Thawne.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
exept I never said he had a No Killing rule. I said that he doesnt just randomly kill people. He kills to suit his needs. He was trying to create the perfect reality for himself which involved planning and careful execution. dude had a drawn out explanation as to why he is a Master at Time Travel and History Alteration. And it was because unlike Barry, Thawne is careful about what he does. If he just went and killed everyone on a whim, history wouldnt pan out the way he planned. If he had randomly killed Supes his plan would have ultimately failed. simple as that

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The ONLY reason Thawne was able to win in the end and create his perfect reality is because he didnt go around killing just anyone. That would have altered history against what he was trying to do. Thomas was destined to kill Superman, not Thawne.

Plus, what I got from the comic was Thawne was actually scared about fighting Superman.

So that's a good reason why he didn't do all of his tricks, and is actually a good example of versatile characters Vs fast bricks. Just like Thor/Surfer don't dip into their bag of tricks Vs Hulk - they're panicking, this monster is in their face punching, no time to react - gotta hit him hard and fast.

That's what happened here. Thawne is trying to collect his thoughts, he didn't plan on fighting a Kryptonian, and bang, he's getting punched etc.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol. Same words to you. Either you just didn't read the comic or just straight up lying
Thawne wasn't randomly kill people but he certainly willing to kill. Only when the people that suit/serve his purpose he wouldn't kill them. Not the other way around. IOW, Thawne certainly would willing to kill Superman since there is no reason for him to hold back
And only when Superman saved him. And Thomas' words enlightened him. After that Thawne decided to create perfect universe.(I.E, Creating a perfect universe this idea wasn't the plan when he fighting Superman)
Only after Superman's selfless action and Thomas words Thawne decided to create a perfect universe in his perspective
he even stated
"I was blinded by the need to play in the ruins of the world barry allen left behind, in what was left of his life."
https://ibb.co/r7HY1SG
https://ibb.co/grDLPhM

😂 And YET, none of that addresses anything I said, you got smacked pretty bad. Compared to my argument yours is nothing. I gave context of the story and even showed proof that Thawne wasnt fighting Superman to kill. I even had to educate you on how Thawne operates. Your argument is cool and all but ultimately loses to facts. Everything I states has been Facts and is back up by the writing and context of the story. Thawne ain't try to kill Superman. Period.