Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil1,926 pages

And it wouldnt make sense for Thawne to be afraid of Flashpoint Superman. Flashing Supes isnt even as skilled and powerful as regular Super yet we've seen Thawne toy with him before with little concern. Was he cautious? Sure. But too afraid to use abilities that Superman has no counter for? That doesnt make sense. So no he never went "all out"

When I want you to wank a superman feat i'll call you until than stay on the sidelines. simple as that. You know better to not try to dispute anything i say on comics

Yeah,Thawne was pretty afraid of engaging Superman. Tried to flee as soon as he could.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah,Thawne was pretty afraid of engaging Superman. Tried to flee as soon as he could.

Caution and Fear are two different things.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 And YET, none of that addresses anything I said, you got smacked pretty bad. Compared to my argument yours is nothing. I gave context of the story and even showed proof that Thawne wasnt fighting Superman to kill. I even had to educate you on how Thawne operates. Your argument is cool and all but ultimately loses to facts. Everything I states has been Facts and is back up by the writing and context of the story. Thawne ain't try to kill Superman. Period.
You mean your conjectures 😆
Your argument is Thawne holding back when fighting Superman because he had some big plan( creating perfect reality). But in reality, Only in the end of this story Thawne decided to make a perfect world. So this argument you already have lost. And you logic is hilarious to say at least. A murderer usually don't kill his hostages and that means a murderer won't kill innocents or police? That is the core logic of your argument. And it like I said, Hilarious to say at least
You didn't give context of this story, You just lying and trying to spread misinformation due to your own biases
The same words to you: You got smacked pretty bad

You even see his thoughts becoming shorter, more disjointed. He's being pushed by Superman.

He didn't see it coming, and it disorientated him, that they would use Superman on him.

The hope only came at the end with the last bullet. Before that he was like a rat in a cage, lashing out at Thomas because he knew he was trapped.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You even see his thoughts becoming shorter, more disjointed. He's being pushed by Superman.

He didn't see it coming, and it disorientated him, that they would use Superman on him.

The hope only came at the end with the last bullet. Before that he was like a rat in a cage, lashing out at Thomas because he knew he was trapped.

AND if Thawne was trying to kill Superman, he would have....you know...tried to KILL HIM.

He pushed rocks onto him and punched him. Neither of those were lethal attempts. He was merely trying to get away.

Because he was scared,and wasn't thinking straight. I agree.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
You mean your conjectures 😆
Your argument is Thawne holding back when fighting Superman because he had some big plan( creating perfect reality). But in reality, Only in the end of this story Thawne decided to make a perfect world. So this argument you already have lost. And you logic is hilarious to say at least. A murderer usually don't kill his hostages and that means a murderer won't kill innocents or police? That is the core logic of your argument. And it like I said, Hilarious to say at least
You didn't give context of this story, You just lying and trying to spread misinformation due to your own biases
The same words to you: You got smacked pretty bad

Yeah no my logic is absolutely sound. You just don't like it 😂 Should've just kept quiet

Yeah, Superman is fast enough to blitzed Thawne and he keeps pushing Thawne out of balance.Like the comic itslef stated. That I agree 👆
A reasonable portrayal about Superman fighting Flash/Thawne. Superman can just keep pushing them out of balance and land a solid punch, Then the fight is over

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah no my logic is absolutely sound. You just don't like it 😂 Should've just kept quiet
😆 . So where is your proofs of Thawne didn't want to kill Superman if he had the chance?
on the contrary, The comic shows Superman blitzed Thawne and kept him out of balance, having the upper hand

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, Superman is fast enough to blitzed Thawne and he keeps pushing Thawne out of balance.Like the comic itslef stated. That I agree 👆
A reasonable portrayal about Superman fighting Flash/Thawne. Superman can just keep pushing them out of balance and land a solid punch, Then the fight is over

Yeah, no. Seeing ass without plot being involved theres nothing stopping Thawne from phasing through Supes attacks.

So in actuality this isnt an accurate portrayal of how their fight would go. Supes has no counter for phasing, both when it come to defending against is and trying to hit them. We've seen Barry and Wally casually phase through Superman. Nice try though

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah, no. Seeing ass without plot being involved theres nothing stopping Thawne from phasing through Supes attacks.
😆 , The comic said otherwise. Superman can blitz Thawne and make him out of balance. Superman just needs landing a solid punch and Thawne gets oneshotted. It maybe is a CIS, But PIS? I don't think so.
So in actuality this isnt an accurate portrayal of how their fight would go. Supes has no counter for phasing, both when it come to defending against is and trying to hit them. We've seen Barry and Wally casually phase through Superman. Nice try though

Or Superman can just oneshot them with one punch.
Also my main point is you original post that you claimed that Thawne was holding back against Superman. But in actuality, The comic never stated it all your "proofs" just your conjectures

Except his own CIS. He was surprised by Superman, and was kept off balance and didn't get a chance to strategize. His best tactic was to try and bury him and then run, but when that failed he wasn't thinking properly, because he was being pushed to his limits by Skinny Superman.

Basically, he had gotten arrogant and lazy being the only speedster around. Skinny Supes shows up, and he's not used to someone being on his level. He freezes, has to resort to desperate tactics like throwing half a mountain on him ,gets tagged for the first time since arriving on that planet etc etc.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except his own CIS. He was surprised by Superman, and was kept off balance and didn't get a chance to strategize. His best tactic was to try and bury him and then run, but when that failed he wasn't thinking properly, because he was being pushed to his limits by Skinny Superman.

Basically, he had gotten arrogant and lazy being the only speedster around. Skinny Supes shows up, and he's not used to someone being on his level. He freezes, has to resort to desperate tactics like throwing half a mountain on him ,gets tagged for the first time since arriving on that planet etc etc.

Except that's ignoring the context of Thawne as a character. You cant even begin to formulate a proper argument without actually knowing Thawne as a character. In every encounter with Supes he never once tried to kill him. He doesnt want to. And NOTHING you can show proves that Thawne was supposedly 'going all out and trying to kil Superman'. So no, its not an "accurate" portrayal, and never will be. No amount of head canon disputes it

Except Thawne killed a lot of people and there is no indication Thawne had further needs for Superman 😈

But.....if you want to argue that Thawne wasn't going all out to kill Superman....

He still got tagged, several times. Fine, you want to argue that Thawne was taking it easy on Skinny Superman, but that doesn't mean he allows himself to get tagged, lol.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah, no. Seeing ass without plot being involved theres nothing stopping Thawne from phasing through Supes attacks.

So in actuality this isnt an accurate portrayal of how their fight would go. Supes has no counter for phasing, both when it come to defending against is and trying to hit them. We've seen Barry and Wally casually phase through Superman. Nice try though

how do you know that thawne didn’t try this because he would have been exposed to a punch from Superman. You’re bringing up what thawne can do but can’t think of the counter skinny Superman would have done. One thought at a time, the Trollberto way.

Juggernaut 4 revealed that Juggernaut is weakened.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Juggernaut 4 revealed that Juggernaut is weakened.

It did? Scans??

Originally posted by Diesldude
how do you know that thawne didn’t try this because he would have been exposed to a punch from Superman. You’re bringing up what thawne can do but can’t think of the counter skinny Superman would have done. One thought at a time, the Trollberto way.

hyper age supes to dust like he did enchantress