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And there's also Historical Alteration? Superman is definitely affected by that because Barry's Historical Alteration affected him and at the end of this comic Thawne's Histroical Alteration affected him. I know you don't read anything other than supes but try to keep up

So Thawne wanted to get hit by Skinny Superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Juggernaut 4 revealed that Juggernaut is weakened.

Called it back in October.

Originally posted by Diesldude
he’s not 100%

Thawne at the end of the comic after he altered history, creating his own Justice League where everyone, even Superman Blue, other Superman variations, Wonder Woman, Black Adam, and dozens of other heroes and villains are loyal to him:

Tempus watching Thawne and his actions, explaining that he is changing anything and everything he wants.

I don't even debate for DC, but if Super wank is appearing, of course.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And there's also Historical Alteration? Superman is definitely affected by that because Barry's Historical Alteration affected him and at the end of this comic Thawne's Histroical Alteration affected him. I know you don't read anything other than supes but try to keep up

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So Thawne wanted to get hit by Skinny Superman?

when Superman first flew and tackled him, it makes sense because:
1. He wasn't looking and wasnt expecting it.
2. There are no longer any Speedsters so he didnt feel the need to keep his guard up. He never expected a fight with a Kryptonian (which is exactly why Thomas freed him, Supes now being the only one with a glimmer of a chance to catch Thawne off guard and fight him.

Tempus watching Thawne and his actions, explaining that he is changing anything and everything he wants. This would include anything o do with Superman, which is proven in the next page which is the Reverse Justice League scan I posted:

So yes Historical Alteration alone is enough against Supes. Not up for dispute

The other instances were mainly CIS/PIS because at any time Thawne could have easily just phased through him to either harm him or escape, especially when Supes grabbed him.

And he casually escaped regular Supes who is more powerful and more skilled than Flashpoint Superman who only had 5 days worth of sun exposure at the time:

But like I was saying last night, Thawne has no interesting in killing Superman. If he did he could have done so here when he blitzed Supes. Instead of punching him he could have phased his brain. He didnt.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
when Superman first flew and tackled him, it makes sense because:
1. He wasn't looking and wasnt expecting it.
2. There are no longer any Speedsters so he didnt feel the need to keep his guard up. He never expected a fight with a Kryptonian (which is exactly why Thomas freed him, Supes now being the only one with a glimmer of a chance to catch Thawne off guard and fight him.

I meant the other times

Did you post the scan where Zoom says Superman's speed rivals his own?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I meant the other times

Did you post the scan where Zoom says Superman's speed rivals his own?

Yeah, Rivals, but not equal to or surpasses. And Thawne clearly wasnt running his fastest there.
Proof being Flash War where Wally and Barry (Thawne being every bit as fast as Barry, if not faster) casually outran Supes and left him in the dust when they were serious. Even Superman admits they are too fast.

So by "Rival" Thawne just means Superman has just enough speed to keep up when he isnt running all out.

Ultimately, Thawne's superiority complex can be his downfall. To him, the only people close to being his equal are Barry and Wally, and he doesnt even acknowledge Wally. So he isnt as concerned with people like Superman, to the point that he's underestimated him at times.

Thawne blitzes Superman again and instead of phasing him he just punches him. He even holds back on te other to make sure he doesnt kill them. Mind you, we've seen him one-shot and kill Sinestro with a single punch. Like I said, Thawne kills with a purpose because he knows that unplanned and random killings, especially of pivotal people, will result in historical changes he didn't want.

Originally posted by carver9
It did? Scans??

Nope, wait for it.

Juggernaut is not at full power. Shocker, who could have predicted this?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he is at full power.

😂 your concession is accepted abhi 👍

Scans?

Not that any further proof was needed, but still would like to see.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Juggernaut is not at full power. Shocker, who could have predicted this?

Where

In the comic

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
In the kitchen

Fixed it for you, fam.