Originally posted by h1a8
I believe bullets can hurt WW (not sure after her upgrade though) but I disagree that a human can grab a sword in the exact manner that WW did without getting cut.
Disagree as much as you want, doesn't stop it from being true. All you need to do is research on things like half-swording and sword-grabbing techniques. Heck here, I'll save you the time.
Originally posted by h1a8
I believe bullets can hurt WW (not sure after her upgrade though) but I disagree that a human can grab a sword in the exact manner that WW did without getting cut.
Talk about ignorance.
How does always being wrong feel?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Disagree as much as you want, doesn't stop it from being true. All you need to do is research on things like half-swording and sword-grabbing techniques. Heck here, I'll save you the time.
I just rewatched the scene. It appears that WW could have applied significantly more pressure to the sides and not much to the blade. So you are correct.
But here's a far stronger argument that WW could be cut by the sword and is not bulletproof:
The writer had her catch the sword to prevent being stabbed.
The writer had her block bullets to prevent her from being injured by them. In other words, writer's intentions are that she is not bulletproof.
Now after her Ares upgrade it is somewhat debatable. Tbh, I'm not sure either way. All I know is she became significantly more powerful.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Talk about ignorance.How does always being wrong feel?
All martial arts are culty (cult like). They display unrealistic shit that doesn't work in real life. Real swords used in battle are extremely sharp. Yes if you can manage to clasped the sides of the sword more then you can possibly catch the sword without being cut (or cut a lot).
The only martial arts that is reliable to work is any art that is used in mix martial art competitions.
Anything else is subject to being culty.
Originally posted by h1a8
All martial arts are culty (cult like). They display unrealistic shit that doesn't work in real life. Real swords used in battle are extremely sharp. Yes if you can manage to clasped the sides of the sword more then you can possibly catch the sword without being cut (or cut a lot).The only martial arts that is reliable to work is any art that is used in mix martial art competitions.
Anything else is subject to being culty.
Nope, again you're wrong. Swords weren't "extremely" sharp. I mean, yes they were sharp, but they weren't anywhere near as sharp as your average kitchen knife, not european swords anyway. There were lots of things to consider here, from cross-section shape to type of steel to how heavily they were used, etc.
As for martial arts "displaying unrealistic shit", these blade-grabbing techniques were taught in historical fight manuals from the medieval ages. In short, they were legitimate techniques taught at a time when martial arts were actually used in combat. Obviously it doesn't mean they were easy to apply during combat, but they definitely weren't unrealistic.
Originally posted by h1a8
All martial arts are culty (cult like). They display unrealistic shit that doesn't work in real life. Real swords used in battle are extremely sharp. Yes if you can manage to clasped the sides of the sword more then you can possibly catch the sword without being cut (or cut a lot).The only martial arts that is reliable to work is any art that is used in mix martial art competitions.
Anything else is subject to being culty.
Basically this is just you crying because I proved you wrong.
Originally posted by h1a8
I just rewatched the scene. It appears that WW could have applied significantly more pressure to the sides and not much to the blade. So you are correct.But here's a far stronger argument that WW could be cut by the sword and is not bulletproof:
The writer had her catch the sword to prevent being stabbed.
The writer had her block bullets to prevent her from being injured by them. In other words, writer's intentions are that she is not bulletproof.Now after her Ares upgrade it is somewhat debatable. Tbh, I'm not sure either way. All I know is she became significantly more powerful.
There is no swords in this so why does it matter? In a closed cage, WW is going to get her ass beat, that's all there is to it. She lacks the damage output without her weapons to put him down in any meaningful way. Thor took direct hits from Hulk and didnt even make him bleed and that was the first avengers movie. Hes never been a slouch on durability showing until it came to Kurse who broke that barrier.
Plus, if we use h1's argument that "writer's intention" trumps what is seen on screen. then Thor is far faster than Wonder Woman as he is fast enough to casually block energy attacks.
What do you think, will h1 be consistent or will he find some excuse not to use "writer's intentions" in regards to Thor's reaction speed?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Plus, if we use h1's argument that "writer's intention" trumps what is seen on screen. then Thor is far faster than Wonder Woman as he is fast enough to casually block energy attacks.What do you think, will h1 be consistent or will he find some excuse not to use "writer's intentions" in regards to Thor's reaction speed?
Those energy attacks were slow. Look at the speed Thor bats them away.
We see the beam's speed and its not very fast.
Plus Destroyer telegraphed every time he fired.
In other words, bullets are far faster than those beams.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Nope, again you're wrong. Swords weren't "extremely" sharp. I mean, yes they were sharp, but they weren't anywhere near as sharp as your average kitchen knife, not european swords anyway. There were lots of things to consider here, from cross-section shape to type of steel to how heavily they were used, etc.As for martial arts "displaying unrealistic shit", these blade-grabbing techniques were taught in historical fight manuals from the medieval ages. In short, they were legitimate techniques taught at a time when martial arts were actually used in combat. Obviously it doesn't mean they were easy to apply during combat, but they definitely weren't unrealistic.
I used to buy karate books when I was a kid. That shit did not work in combat. Like I said, if you grasped mostly to the sides and not so much the blade then you can possibly catch a sword. Why didn't you address my other post agreeing with you? You just want to argue?
But it's impossible for you to convince me that a human's hands can become cut proof.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
H1 its "Such fragile life forms" not "lifeformses" life forms is two words, and "lifeformses" doesn't even make sense as its wrong spelling and grammatically wrong as well.Type in lifeformses and see what comes up.
I already knew that. He actually said, "fragile sort of life forms." But he put emphasis on the "s" at the end of forms.
The reason I chose "lifeformses" is because when I was 4 years old and first saw Superman 2 this it what it sounded like (his English accent). For several years I adopted the saying when I played with friends.
So the quote is more about nostalgic reasons.