Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why can't FS do the second attack?
He can do the second attack, I just dont think it will be effective. Let me explain why. The Challenger and Hulk fought, the same Challenger that attacked Grandmaster and punched a hole clean through him. Lol... Hulk laughed at his attack. He got bfred, but he laughed it off. I feel confident Challenger output>>>Firestorm. Also, Kalibak is trash.
Originally posted by carver9
He can do the second attack, I just dont think it will be effective. Let me explain why. The Challenger and Hulk fought, the same Challenger that attacked Grandmaster and punched a hole clean through him. Lol... Hulk laughed at his attack. He got bfred, but he laughed it off. I feel confident Challenger output>>>Firestorm. Also, Kalibak is trash.
How powerful is Challenger's energy output?
Lol... and he is fighting against someone who have a limitless apply of power. A being that has outright been compared to the Phoenix force and Galactus himself. I dont think word of mouth is a good way of approaching this. I think looking at fts are the best option. Lol... Champion also have the power of the big bang inside of him and while powered up with the power stone, he was still compared to the Hulk powerwise. Also, people dont hold the Champion power to those levels.
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Originally posted by carver9
Lol... and he is fighting against someone who have a limitless apply of power. A being that has outright been compared to the Phoenix force and Galactus himself. I dont think word of mouth is a good way of approaching this. I think looking at fts are the best option. Lol... Champion also have the power of the big bang inside of him and while powered up with the power stone, he was still compared to the Hulk powerwise. Also, people dont hold the Champion power to those levels.🙂
So what's CHALLENGER'S power output?
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Orion vs Kalibak [Amped]:
https://imgur.com/a/Fi7Lrpj
Firestorm creates a mini-star then desintegrates it right after he beats Kalibak, too:
https://imgur.com/a/4sEBd3S
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And as mentioned- FS KO'd THAT Kalibak with a single blast:
Originally posted by Galan007
Moreover, FS wasn't at all fatigued afterward... Which means he could deliver several more blasts in rapid succession if need be. So even IF Hulk were able to endure the first blast, there's no way he's soaking multiple blasts of that magnitude.
...And this is aside from all of the other tactics in Firestorm's arsenal.
Originally posted by Galan007
Again, this was an AMPED Kalibak. He'd been amped to such an extent that he easily stomped Orion, ffs... Then FS KO'd him with that one blast.What isn't computing here?
Didnt say it wasn't an impressive showing. What I did say is, fighting against the Hulk, the showing is meaningless. Especially factoring in Hulk giving Heralds concussions and one shot punching the new Ghost Rider. Amazing showing for Firestorm, it does nothing here. Especially from a guy that heals from anything.
Originally posted by carver9Lol.
Didnt say it wasn't an impressive showing. What I did say is, fighting against the Hulk, the showing is meaningless. Especially factoring in Hulk giving Heralds concussions and one shot punching the new Ghost Rider. Amazing showing for Firestorm, it does nothing here. Especially from a guy that heals from anything.
Given how absurdly powerful Kalibak was there, I feel like it's being quite generous to assume that Hulk could endure 'a' blast of that magnitude without being KO'd. The notion that he could endure repeated, stacked blasts of that magnitude, however, is absolutely ridiculous.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Zemo depowered him first. Then shot him in the head, lol.Interesting to note:
'You can never be defeated by more power......'
Yeah, but before that (absolutely hilarious) scene, Zemo did flat out overpower him, resulting in a temp discorporation. He reformed some time later, as Zemo knew he would.
