Silver Surfer vs HP Doomsday

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EA vs Supes
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EA vs Doomsday
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Ambient, do you have anything that states that the the Entrophy Aeges armor uses entropic

Yeah! Steel said it when going up against Doomsday. /\/\/\

Originally posted by Ambient
Yeah! Your right on that one Galan it was just a another Probe, but I’m still with Deadline here about the very-ing destructive levels of DC entropy.

With that I’d like u to look at another Probe or somewhat a re-engineered one, the Entrophy Aeges armor . And as u say this one can project entropic energy blast like Imperiex, yet if u look at the scan below. the Doomsday vs AE, it had a different destructive output compared to that of Imperiex, a lesser destructive degree of power, specially when u look at it again vs the Superman scan.. I say deadline got it right with that, thought I forgot as to why the point of his argument dough 😆.

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EA vs DD
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EA vs Supes
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Had to repost it ..

Keep in mind, Ambient: that was a clone of Doomsday. It wasn't the real thing.

That being said, we know that every blast the E/A Armor fires is not Entropy, because discharging Entropy was a one-trick pony. As the scan you posted depicts: the discharge of Entropy actually destroyed the Armor.

Superman was well above Kryptonite X+MB armor levels in H/P by the time of OWAW-IC era( at least, while in 'All Out" mode.

See: His showngs against Darkseid. H/P Superman was well below Darkseid despite Kryptonite X+MB armor.

He was officially Doomsday/Darkseid level by the time he attained Probe Smashing levels. Darkseid specifically noted how he'd grown stronger than he ever had been previously.

Originally posted by Galan007
Keep in mind, Ambient: that was a clone of Doomsday. It wasn't the real thing.

That being said, we know that every blast the E/A Armor fires is not Entropy, because discharging Entropy was a one-trick pony. As the scan you posted depicts: the discharge of Entropy actually destroyed the Armor.


Yeah but that’s really not what the point of the scan was, it was on me to show the diff. destructive degrees of entropic energies. The scan’s showed < Imperiex blast which proves my argument.

Well we know the armor runs on entrophic energy.. \/\/\/
https://supermanrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Entropy_Aegis?file=EntropyAegisSupermanIrons.jpg

Otherwise stated it’s energy blast should be of same form, specially when it’s depicted on panel that it can. U can see and compare in the scan below, in art.

https://supermanrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Entropy_Aegis?file=EntropyAegisSupermanIrons.jpg

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It’s art depictions are all similar; color, form and flow. Similar too this one which John actually states it is Entropy. \/\/\/

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/4842039-6492290804-33960.jpg

Oh and the reason why John EA armor dissipated there was because of his injuries, I think this was the time after Darkseid severe his connection with the EA armor.

Anyhow like I said Deadline is right, Entropic energies can be outputed at different destructive levels which was shown by Imperiex and EA armor. That’s all what am sayin.

Will you willfully go and read the issues to have an idea what you're talking about instead of googling "entropy aegis help me", or do I have to pull out the scans myself?

I'm giving you way out here.

Please show me Phil! Lol

Originally posted by Ambient
Please show me Phil! Lol
You don't understand what the Aegis Armor is [that's why I suggested you read the comics, and don't google wikis, lol]

It's a "hollow Imperiex Probe shell retrofited with Apokaliptian technology". The entropic properties are defensive properties of the armor and not of the blasts.

That's why Darkseid calls it "anti-Venom on a cosmic scale" that will allow Superman "to get close to Imperiex":

The armor's defensive properties can deflect the attack on the wearer [as it does Darkseid's Omega Effect]:

The armor's defensive properties allows it to absorb and nullify all energies:

The blasts are simply generic cosmic energy:

...which is obvious, since the armor was upgraded with the aforementioned Apokaliptian technology:

That Superman can easily tank:

One important fact, that anybody who had read the minimum of comics required to understand what's happening would know, is that the power John Irons was merely an incubator, for Entropy to be reborn inside:

John Henry Irons was only the chicken inside the egg [i.e. Entropic armor] through which Entropy itself would be reborn, but until right at the very end on Apokolips against Doomsday [where his armor was removed], he never Entropy'd anybody.

👆

the entire OWAW arc was filled with uber feats

entropy'd. i lol'd.

Originally posted by leonidas
entropy'd. i lol'd.
I'm arguing against Superman tanking Entropy. Imagine how I feel, lol.

mmm 👆

@ Phil

Don’t undermine Google and there’s nothing you could have told me that I don’t already know from its search function lol ... and what’s up with ur scan img host - my coworker thinkin “porn? This early, @ work?”

Anyhow the rest of your post is pretty much irrelevant, I’m not in oppose or was I arguing it’s other capabilities but was merely implying its entropic energy blast. It being of different level compared to that of Impiriex blasts therefore proving mine and also of deadline point that Entropic energy is not of equal destructive force in all scale.

Let me show you a couple on panel scan and not of some bio. \/\/\/

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/supermanrebirth/images/d/dc/EntropyAegisSupermanIrons.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111219173907

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-4842039

That should be more than clear enough that EA’s blast is of entropic in nature. Heck you can see it’s art depiction in other issues like this one below to be of similar nature. \/\/\/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-4842034

You’ve got very nice scans dough.

That should be more than clear enough that EA’s blast is of entropic in nature.

The entropical properties of the armor was already explained to you.

None of those blasts are entropy. He is an amalgam of a burned out shell of an Imperiex Probe armor and Apokoliptian technology. They're just cosmic blasts, and it was made clear both in description and in Superman literally tanking them [repeatedly].

The one time he used tried to use entropy itself, it was made very clear, against Doomsday, and his armor was gone. The reason John Henry was made to wear the armor by Darkseid in the first place is for Entropy itself to be developed.

@Phil

Again let me repeat! All that is known to me, and it makes no diff. If it’s either the armor nor John itself was made to project Entropy. What matters is the point that I’m trying to concede and that is “not all entropic energy being discharge is of equal force. “

And yes John himself even said on panel that he controls and use entropic energies - it just doesn’t get any clearer than that.

Originally posted by Ambient
@Phil

Again let me repeat! All that is known to me, and it makes no diff. If it’s either the armor nor John itself was made to project Entropy. What matters is the point that I’m trying to concede and that is “not all entropic energy being discharge is of equal force. “

And yes John himself even said on panel that he controls and use entropic energies - it just doesn’t get any clearer than that.

Is there an echo in here?

John Irons doesn't, at any point in your scans, discharge Entropy towards an opponent - it's generic cosmic blasts. Entropy, itself, was something that Darkseid specifically wanted to develop using John. The armor was a meld of Apokaliptian/Imperiex Probe armor:

You can't, without any sort of evidence, say that any blast is Entropy when there's multitude of evidence to the contrary, from every possible source.

Is this an 'entropy' shield?

What's next, all Imperiex Probes were discharging entropy, at all times? Is every power, ever used by anybody powered by Imperiex only entropy?

Get a grip, man.

Get a mod ruling(minus Gaylan obvs)...

Can he Entropy Aegis armor fire off entropy based attacks...?

That's not what's being asked, idiot.