Silver Surfer vs HP Doomsday

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil21 pages
Originally posted by Damborgson
You show surfer rewriting someone's DNA on the level of trans tier H/P Doomsday and then you might have a point.

Soon as you show Doomsday resisting molecular rewrite from a wielder of the power cosmic

You made the claim, you need to be able to prove it works. I don't have to prove that it doesn't, because it has yet to be established as a viable tactic. It needs proof to back it up and be taken into consideration.

Otherwise, you might as well say Surfer could do that to Imperiex. after all, Why not? Has Imperiex resisted molecule manipulation by a power cosmic wielder?

lol when ignore is your best option. 👆

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Soon as you show Doomsday resisting molecular rewrite from a wielder of the power cosmic
That which is asserted without evidence is just as easily dismissed without evidence. 👆

Both zen and accurate. 👆

This was a beautiful read. Thank you all.

Originally posted by Damborgson
You made the claim, you need to be able to prove it works. I don't have to prove that it doesn't, because it has yet to be established as a viable tactic. It needs proof to back it up and be taken into consideration.

Otherwise, you might as well say Surfer could do that to Imperiex. after all, Why not? Has Imperiex resisted molecule manipulation by a power cosmic wielder?

Surfer literally transmutes whatever the **** he wants. Has created life on a planetary scale.....but we need "proof" he can do something as simple as rewrite the DNA of a being with zero counter to the Power Cosmic?

Ahhh
The classic “prove a negative” argument

If you’re making a claim, you have to back it up. Not the other way around

Making obliterator useless by rearranging the molecules of his gun to make them shoot harmless light.

sad this even had to be posted, I'd like to believe that it wouldnt need to be shown that Surfer can and does transmute and manipulate matter at an atomic level.

It's not in question whether or not he can do it, but I cant help you if you think that him transmitting guns is the same as transmuting trans tier Doomsday.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

Making obliterator useless by rearranging the molecules of his gun to make them shoot harmless light.

sad this even had to be posted, I'd like to believe that it wouldnt need to be shown that Surfer can and does transmute and manipulate matter at an atomic level.


So you believe that this would work on DD because it worked on a gun.....

Next thread : Surfer transmutes the Living Tribunal. Doomsday ALSO punches the LT out, as he's shown zero counters to a fist to the chin.

😂

ss actually has a much more pertinent feat he COULD show to at least create some discussion in place of the complete disaster of an example he did show. but it wouldn't matter still. dd's ability to evolve would make that type of attack meaningless regardless.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Next thread : Surfer transmutes the Living Tribunal. Doomsday ALSO punches the LT out, as he's shown zero counters to a fist to the chin.

That three-headed freak deserves it 👆

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

Making obliterator useless by rearranging the molecules of his gun to make them shoot harmless light.

sad this even had to be posted, I'd like to believe that it wouldnt need to be shown that Surfer can and does transmute and manipulate matter at an atomic level.

Jesus christ.

Stop.

Originally posted by MrMind
That three-headed freak deserves it 👆

Good point.

If anything, he's three times more susceptible to chin punching.

Maths.

Three heads yet not one penis was seen.

How could that be?

By the way we are aware that HP Doomsday was temporarily wounded by an energy sword? Sure he healed from it but I don't think that would have happened so quickly if Superman had chopped Doomsday's head off.

So I if Superman was a better fighter and was able to chop Doomsday into little pieces it could be argued that Superman wouldn't have needed the entropy. An energy sword is a molecular attack ( in the sense that it can affect you on the molecular level) but not as sophisticated as what SS did to Obliterator. Obliterator looks like a subskyfather level character to me and was about to kill SS and Mantis before SS did that trick. His energy weapons were overpowering SS and they were too much for SS. Also the tech had weapons analysis and was able to deduce that Mantis was plant life and created an attack that would killer her based on her physiology (obvioulsy I have to point out that I'm not arguing Mantis =Doomsday I'm just saying the tech could do more than just brute force). So Obliterator's tech isn't just 'some gun'.

Eventhough the OP stated specifically atomize whats stopping SS from weaponzing his board? Isn't SS capable of engaging him with his other powers and then using his board to chop his head off while HP Doomsday is distracted? Is Superman's energy sword > SS board in terms of damage? Could SS 'atomize' Doomsday with his board?

Eh?

a.) That sword was New God tech.
b.) Superman's stats were significantly amped by MotherBox.
c.) It was a full-force swing followed immediately by a dose of high intensity HV.

...Despite that, it just gave DD a petty flesh wound(which he healed from nigh-instantly), because he is immensely durable/dense. IOW, Superman was physically incapable of chopping DD into tiny pieces... That small gash was all he could muster.

DD also has no organs.

So it's debatable that decapitating would even work. I mean, if he has no brain (comics, amirite??)