Silver Surfer vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by Galan007
Eh?

a.) That sword was New God tech.
b.) Superman's stats were significantly amped by MotherBox.
c.) It was a full-force swing followed immediately by a dose of high intensity HV.

a) Doesn't SS have showings that are comparable to a motherbox? For example SS was able to KO The Champion, this is by the way before he became a jobber.
b) Did it increase his stats or did it just give him weapons and a HF? Not sure if it specifically stated that.
c) Yes but it wasn't the HV that cut DD.

Originally posted by Galan007

...Despite that, it just gave DD a petty flesh wound(which he healed from nigh-instantly), because he is immensely durable/dense. IOW, Superman was physically incapable of chopping DD into tiny pieces... That small gash was all he could muster.

That didn't look like a small gash to me it looked like it was not far away from a neck size cut. Also I'm not sure if that sword is > SS's board travelling at top speed. Superman was able to distract DD and use his speed. So SS can distract DD and chop his head off, by engaging him from the front and having the board come up from behind and take his head off.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
DD also has no organs.

So it's debatable that decapitating would even work. I mean, if he has no brain (comics, amirite??)

Based on what we saw in the comics it would work. If DD is going to close up his ears to protect his brain from sonic attacks decapitation will work.

Originally posted by Deadline
a) Based on what we saw in the comics it would work. If DD is going to close up his ears to protect his brain from sonic attacks decapitation will work.

Originally posted by Deadline
a) Doesn't SS have showings that are comparable to a motherbox? For example SS was able to KO The Champion, this is by the way before he became a jobber.
b) Did it increase his stats or did it just give him weapons and a HF? Not sure if it specifically stated that.
c) Yes but it wasn't the HV that cut DD.

b.) MotherBox increased all of Superman's stats:
https://i.imgur.com/VsCYmay.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6AAoOWk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fsJIOHg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/npnWoUW.jpg

c.) The HV was used tactically by Superman to try and hurt DD more while he was 'injured' by the sword strike. It obviously didn't work, but still...

Originally posted by Deadline
That didn't look like a small gash to me it looked like it was not far away from a neck size cut.

Don't know why you think causing such a minor injury equates to Superman(nevermind Surfer) being able to fully decapitate DD..? To do that he'd have to get through bone as well... And it should go without saying, but DD's bone structure is obviously FAR more durable than his flesh:
https://i.imgur.com/e8bHr4v.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/q68AaQp.jpg

Originally posted by Deadline
Also I'm not sure if that sword is > SS's board travelling at top speed. Superman was able to distract DD and use his speed. So SS can distract DD and chop his head off, by engaging him from the front and having the board come up from behind and take his head off.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I doubt that,from anatomy of a metahuman specifically stated DD could spawn from a cell.
And in comic,DD in apokolips now been almost obliterated by entropy aegis to dust.But still returned in GOG war story arc

Yea but SS still wins because DD is taken out temporarily. The OP stated if SS could win not if he could beat DD permanently. Not even the entropy took DD out permanently it was still a win.

Originally posted by Galan007
Jesus christ.

Stop.

what?

Surfer can accelerate or reverse your evolution. What's DD counter to that?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Surfer can accelerate or reverse your evolution. What's DD counter to that?

You tell me Alberto

Since your own evolution is already reversed

He’s creating a classic no limits fallacy but it won’t matter if it’s pointed out. I suppose ss could simply devolve Odin as well right? Superb line of argument..... 👆

You know who else can manipulate personal time frames? A guy named waverider. And he can do it a lot more effectively than ss. So unless ss can teleport dd to the end of time I don’t like his odds. And lol at ss decapitating anyone.

Because that’s right in line with his character even if it WERE possible. Which it isn’t....

Looking at the absolute state of some posters, I'm starting to get nostalgic for Carver.

😂

Silber Urper matter manipulates DD's neck and his head falls off and his body shoots out harmless light out of said neck.

Originally posted by leonidas
He’s creating a classic no limits fallacy but it won’t matter if it’s pointed out. I suppose ss could simply devolve Odin as well right? Superb line of argument..... 👆

You know who else can manipulate personal time frames? A guy named waverider. And he can do it a lot more effectively than ss. So unless ss can teleport dd to the end of time I don’t like his odds. And lol at ss decapitating anyone.

Are you saying that it's impossible to muck with DD's genetics, on physiological level? Odin is different, because he has magical wards to keep this from happening in most cases, but DD is the genetic clone poster boy. I disagree Leo. If anything, DD is being given no limits in terms of his defenses. Waverider isn't the Surfer. Their powers are completely different. The Surfer has the Power Cosmic, which was able to turn Hercules into green sludge when he attacked Galactus. How fas does DD's resistance go when he has yet to face that particular power? The Surfer healed an entire planet, so I think that it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to giv the Surfer the benefit of a maybe he could actually take this.

Can Surfer transmute the Hulk?

Hulk isn't made of matter, he's made of RAGE

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Can Surfer transmute the Hulk?

Not sure, but I'm betting that he could trap him in his board and remotely fly him into star. Actually, he can and has. He took full control of the Hulk's powers reverting him back to Banner. He also messed with Lunatik's genes, which made it improbable for him to leave an alien planet.

Why are you suddenly unsure if Surfer can mess with Hulk's DNA?

Well I'm actually positive that he can. Read my entire post.

Originally posted by leonidas
He’s creating a classic no limits fallacy but it won’t matter if it’s pointed out. I suppose ss could simply devolve Odin as well right? Superb line of argument..... 👆

You know who else can manipulate personal time frames? A guy named waverider. And he can do it a lot more effectively than ss. So unless ss can teleport dd to the end of time I don’t like his odds. And lol at ss decapitating anyone.

Originally posted by leonidas
Because that’s right in line with his character even if it WERE possible. Which it isn’t....

I'm not saying that HP DD isn't durable enough to withstand such an attack, but I'm not sure why it'd be out of character for Surfer to decapitate DD with his board. We're not talking about a hero or anything like that, DD is basically a monster and Surfer's done such things to monsters before...