Originally posted by Putinbot1
A single example a sample group does not make, particularly when a lot of contrary evidence from Trumpers is obvious.
I disagree.
This single example disproves the narrative you're trying to push. Particularly when there is a lot of contrary evidence to the factually incorrect libtarded narrative you're trying to push.
Go ahead, post this amazing evidence you have to push your narrative. 😉
edit - and before the goalposts get moved, remember, this is about Trumpers being Nazi Fascists. If they are, why are Nazi's not tolerated among Trumpers?
Originally posted by dadudemonwill reply properly tomorrow, no time now this evening DDM.
I disagree.This single example disproves the narrative you're trying to push. Particularly when there is a lot of contrary evidence to the factually incorrect libtarded narrative you're trying to push.
Go ahead, post this amazing evidence you have to push your narrative. 😉
edit - and before the goalposts get moved, remember, this is about Trumpers being Nazi Fascists. If they are, why are Nazi's not tolerated among Trumpers?
Originally posted by dadudemon
My favorite part of the video is when one of them tells him to go stand over with the anti-Trumpers who are the actual fascists. lol
So what is your opinion on the way some here misuse the term alt right? Do you buy the "it's the vernacular yo!" excuse? Just curious where you stand.
Originally posted by Surtur
So what is your opinion on the way some here misuse the term alt right? Do you buy the "it's the vernacular yo!" excuse? Just curious where you stand.
Why does the left paint moderates and conservatives, who criticize the lefitsts, as fascists, "Alt-Righters", and Nazis?
There's a very good reason why.
Using these derogatory labels on people who oppose them or people they think oppose them allows them to think of these people as lesser humans. "Look, these people are not up here with the quality people. These low-quality people are subhuman."
Once you take that step, intellectually, you can justify quite a bit more things in you mind that you normally would not.
"An alt-right Nazi was punched in the face? Good! Serves her right!" Whereas, before, in any other context, they would oppose a woman being punched in the face for their beliefs. "Al-righter was silenced from speaking their political beliefs after getting approval to speak? Good, that's what that piece of trash deserves." Whereas, before, they would literally be rioting if one of their "speakers" was silenced.
This is the same tactic that the Nazis used to justify murdering millions of Jews. They were labeled as subhuman, lessers. Made it easier to justify how they treated them. Interesting, isn't it?
The leftists who misuse the labels "Nazi", "Alt-Right", and "Facist" are using the same tactic Nazis used to justify killing Jews.
An intelligent poster in this thread talked about this. Stuff like this is how we get a holocaust. It starts there.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Why does the left paint moderates and conservatives, who criticize the lefitsts, as fascists, "Alt-Righters", and Nazis?There's a very good reason why.
Using these derogatory labels on people who oppose them or people they think oppose them allows them to think of these people as lesser humans. "Look, these people are not up here with the quality people. These low-quality people are subhuman."
Once you take that step, intellectually, you can justify quite a bit more things in you mind that you normally would not.
"An alt-right Nazi was punched in the face? Good! Serves her right!" Whereas, before, in any other context, they would oppose a woman being punched in the face for their beliefs. "Al-righter was silenced from speaking their political beliefs after getting approval to speak? Good, that's what that piece of trash deserves." Whereas, before, they would literally be rioting if one of their "speakers" was silenced.
This is the same tactic that the Nazis used to justify murdering millions of Jews. They were labeled as subhuman, lessers. Made it easier to justify how they treated them. Interesting, isn't it?
The leftists who misuse the labels "Nazi", "Alt-Right", and "Facist" are using the same tactic Nazis used to justify killing Jews.
An intelligent poster in this thread talked about this. Stuff like this is how we get a holocaust. It starts there.
Damn, great post 👆
Originally posted by MythLord
Yeah, very few in today's world would outright come out as a Nazis. They'd also obviously try to evade any direct connection to Nazism. The same way if someone were to dress up like a Fascist in a far-left rally, they'd get called out for being a Fascist.That doesn't mean some parts of their ideology don't correspond to the Nazi ideology.
This is what I am talking about when I sarcastically described it as a "high bar." There are plenty of people who think anything short of being a Klansman means you are not racist. So putting a guy wearing a Swastika in front of someone, and then sticking a camera in their face, proves what exactly? That they do not want to associated with that symbol. It does not mean they are not racist or fascist or bigoted.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I legitimately feel pity for people that can't tell the difference between the local moron that yells out racial slurs and the group of people responsible for the Holocaust.
How the **** do you think the Holocaust started? They did not go from zero to genocide. It started with Nationalism and White Supremacy, and the creeping acceptability of demonizing and scapegoating minorities.
Originally posted by MythLord
Yeah, very few in today's world would outright come out as a Nazis. They'd also obviously try to evade any direct connection to Nazism. The same way if someone were to dress up like a Fascist in a far-left rally, they'd get called out for being a Fascist.That doesn't mean some parts of their ideology don't correspond to the Nazi ideology.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How the **** do you think the Holocaust started? They did not go from zero to genocide. It started with Nationalism and White Supremacy, and the creeping acceptability of demonizing and scapegoating minorities.
Sounds like a lot of the Rhetoric that the Left Uses all the time now.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How the **** do you think the Holocaust started? They did not go from zero to genocide. It started with Nationalism and White Supremacy, and the creeping acceptability of demonizing and scapegoating minorities.
From the Nazis, not racists in general. hence me pointing out that you can be racist without being a Nazi.
Originally posted by Silent Masterand you completely miss Adams point the same point I've tried half a dozen different ways go show you. Funny stuff, when I have time I'll try one last time. Beginning to think you guys are the alt right tbh.
From the Nazis, not racists in general. hence me pointing out that you can be racist without being a Nazi.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Why does the left paint moderates and conservatives, who criticize the lefitsts, as fascists, "Alt-Righters", and Nazis?There's a very good reason why.
Using these derogatory labels on people who oppose them or people they think oppose them allows them to think of these people as lesser humans. "Look, these people are not up here with the quality people. These low-quality people are subhuman."
Once you take that step, intellectually, you can justify quite a bit more things in you mind that you normally would not.
"An alt-right Nazi was punched in the face? Good! Serves her right!" Whereas, before, in any other context, they would oppose a woman being punched in the face for their beliefs. "Al-righter was silenced from speaking their political beliefs after getting approval to speak? Good, that's what that piece of trash deserves." Whereas, before, they would literally be rioting if one of their "speakers" was silenced.
This is the same tactic that the Nazis used to justify murdering millions of Jews. They were labeled as subhuman, lessers. Made it easier to justify how they treated them. Interesting, isn't it?
The leftists who misuse the labels "Nazi", "Alt-Right", and "Facist" are using the same tactic Nazis used to justify killing Jews.
An intelligent poster in this thread talked about this. Stuff like this is how we get a holocaust. It starts there.
Agreed.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
This is what I am talking about when I sarcastically described it as a "high bar." There are plenty of people who think anything short of being a Klansman means you are not racist. So putting a guy wearing a Swastika in front of someone, and then sticking a camera in their face, proves what exactly? That they do not want to associated with that symbol. It does not mean they are not racist or fascist or bigoted.
Most of them were not aware of the camera, though. How does that change your point?
And based on your conclusory statement, does that mean you'll stop calling Trumpers Nazis and Fascists? Seems like you should if you make that conclusion.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
So putting a guy wearing a Swastika in front of someone, and then sticking a camera in their face, proves what exactly? That they do not want to associated with that symbol. It does not mean they are not racist or fascist or bigoted.
How about I say that you hate Christians? That you want to use state force to shut down all churches, either murder us all or send us to reeducation camps, hmmm?
You'd deny it of course, but that's exactly what someone like that would do, you wouldn't want to be exposed would you Adam? It gets in the way of your genocidal schemes if we find you out, doesn't it, Adam? You're just hiding in the shadows waiting until people like you get enough power and the moment that happens you're going to send me and my religious community to the gas chambers, aren't you, Adam?