What happens when you wear a Nazi armband to a Trump-rally?

Started by Silent Master7 pages

I wonder if they feel the same way about islamic terrorists and muslims.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Nazis are several orders of magnitude worse than regular racists.
How many Black-Americans were lynched and/or killed by Nazis?

Originally posted by Tzeentch
How many Black-Americans were lynched and/or killed by Nazis?

Possibly a few during the war, None that I know of in the US.

On the other hand, racists back in the day have lynched and/or killed plenty.

Thus my point. Your semantical argument falls apart when you change the perspective from that of a white person. To a Black person in America, a regular old racist might as well be a Nazi, as it was simple racists that have historically been responsible for the most inhumane treatment of minorities in the US.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Thus my point. Your semantical argument falls apart when you change the perspective from that of a white person. To a Black person in America, a regular old racist might as well be a Nazi, as it was simple racists that have historically been responsible for the most inhumane treatment of minorities in the US.

That is an emotional argument, it has no basis in fact or reality.

Edit: To a victim of bullying, their bully might as well be Hitler. however, them feeling that doesn't mean their bully is just as bad as Hitler.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
How many Black-Americans were lynched and/or killed by Nazis?
Research in camp records and survivor testimony has so far thrown up around 20 black Germans who spent time in concentration camps and prisons – and at least one who was a euthanasia victim. The one case we have of a black person being sent to a concentration camp explicitly for being a Mischling (mulatto) – Gert Schramm, interned in Buchenwald aged 15 – comes from 1944.

http://theconversation.com/what-happened-to-black-germans-under-the-nazis-53599

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Thus my point. Your semantical argument falls apart when you change the perspective from that of a white person. To a Black person in America, a regular old racist might as well be a Nazi, as it was simple racists that have historically been responsible for the most inhumane treatment of minorities in the US.

You seem to be assuming black people are pretty stupid. I say that because only a stupid person would equate an older lady who's against blacks and whites getting married with someone who threatens them with the crimes against humanity committed by the Nazis.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Again We are splitting hairs as racism led to the final solution.

If you like, there are some excellent historical documentations on the Third Reich that you can read that I can recommend. You will however quickly learn that you are either ignorant or a complete moron if you think the difference between a Nazi and a "racist" is just splitting hairs.

This casual use of the word Nazi, has completely watered down the term. Racism is a part of human nature to some extent. We are tribal creatures. Everyone has some racist tendencies, and prejudices. It is what it is. Luckily, we know not to judge people based on certain aspects of their being and we have laws in place to protect the minority as we live in a Republic Democracy.

However, Nazi = Racist is so dumb. It's like calling Ted Bundy a bad person. Okay, yes, TECHNICALLY it's true, but digging a little deeper isn't splitting hairs. SMH.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Why does the left paint moderates and conservatives, who criticize the lefitsts, as fascists, "Alt-Righters", and Nazis?

There's a very good reason why.

Using these derogatory labels on people who oppose them or people they think oppose them allows them to think of these people as lesser humans. "Look, these people are not up here with the quality people. These low-quality people are subhuman."

Once you take that step, intellectually, you can justify quite a bit more things in you mind that you normally would not.

"An alt-right Nazi was punched in the face? Good! Serves her right!" Whereas, before, in any other context, they would oppose a woman being punched in the face for their beliefs. "Al-righter was silenced from speaking their political beliefs after getting approval to speak? Good, that's what that piece of trash deserves." Whereas, before, they would literally be rioting if one of their "speakers" was silenced.

This is the same tactic that the Nazis used to justify murdering millions of Jews. They were labeled as subhuman, lessers. Made it easier to justify how they treated them. Interesting, isn't it?

The leftists who misuse the labels "Nazi", "Alt-Right", and "Facist" are using the same tactic Nazis used to justify killing Jews.

An intelligent poster in this thread talked about this. Stuff like this is how we get a holocaust. It starts there.

It's how it always starts. The "Us vs. Them" mentality.

The MAGA kid from last week is a great example of how far that ship sailed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjV7EDuL21M

Originally posted by Putinbot1
No, they are the ones trying to say modern neo Nazis aren't Nazi's.

Actually, "neo nazi" is much closer in meaning to "racist" than it is to "nazi." mmm

Originally posted by Silent Master
That is an emotional argument, it has no basis in fact or reality.
Yes, I called your argument semantical for a reason. I'm sorry you're autistic and can't grasp that the English language is heavily informal.

But since you're a definition-nazi (hahaa), tell me: when people refer to gays as "f*ggot" in your presence, do you raise your hand and bust out the "well, ACKSHUALLY..." spiel then, like you're doing now? Because, as I'm sure you know, the origin of the term has nothing to do with gay people.

Originally posted by dadudemon
http://theconversation.com/what-happened-to-black-germans-under-the-nazis-53599
Yeah, that's about what I figured.

Calm down, you're getting to emotional. if you want to do the equivalent of calling Muslims "Islamic terrorists". that's on you. that doesn't mean other people have to accept your delusions.

Calling me emotional is not an argument, lol. In any case, equating the declaration that all Muslims are terrorists with calling racists Nazis implies a lot about your opinion of racists.

Why do you feel compelled to defend the honor of racists? Is there something you'd like to get off your chest? Hell, I'm black- is there something you'd like to say to me?

Agreed, calling you emtional isn't an argument, it's a statement of fact. No, it says a lot about your logic.

It does say a lot about your opinion of racists, actually. You see, I would be upset if someone said that Muslims are all terrorists, but that's because I think most Muslims are good people, and thus don't deserve to be lumped in with terrorists.

Do you think racists are good people, bud? Is that why you get upset when people equate them with Nazis?

I see, so what you're saying is that you only care about the truth if you like the person/group. my, but that does say an awful lot about you.

Well, what I'm saying is that I understand what an equivalency is, and I am okay with racists being equated with what is considered to be a great evil, since racists themselves are evil.

It's funny that you keep avoiding my questions though. I've answered all of yours, so who's actually afraid of the truth here?

You being ok with something doesn't make that thing true.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Well, what I'm saying is that I understand what an equivalency is, and I am okay with racists being equated with what is considered to be a great evil, since racists themselves are evil.

It's funny that you keep avoiding my questions though. I've answered all of yours, so who's actually afraid of the truth here?

I actually don't feel any need to post further in this thread, you've explained more clearly than I did my own feelings 👆

Why would someone even suggest someone thinks racists are good people merely cuz they don't think they are automatically as bad as nazis?

Where is the rationale for this?