Originally posted by Robtard
You said: "I'm just using .5% as a random very very low percentage."Which is you suggesting that the real number is actually likely higher; even if you don't have an exact figure. Otherwise your posts has no real point.
No it's not me suggesting it at all, but hey you tried 👆
Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah the problem bro is that a tiny percentage of 1.5+ billion is still a disturbing amount.
It's more than the tenants of the faith, a lot of it has to do with economics and education.
One of the reasons that Christianity is easy to pick on in the west is that we generally have a higher level of education and economic status.
Then when you look at the leadership of said groups based on those socioeconomic conditions you realize they are looking to achieve different results based on basic needs.
Re: Criticism of religion
Originally posted by cdtm
Is there a double standard on what is acceptable to criticize, and what is not?For example, Christianity is widely criticized for policies against LGBT. Christianity is also routinely criticized against treatment of women.
Yet, if Islam is criticized for treatment of women (Even when the critic is, herself, a muslim), this gets dismissed as anti-Islamphobic at worst, and is generally ignored at best.
I understand both sides don't want to feed the "other" side ammo. Is that what is going on here? Defend Islam against anti-islamaphobes, even when criticism of Islam is warranted?
I believe this thread has very clearly answered your question.
Originally posted by snowdragon👆 Good Post
It's more than the tenants of the faith, a lot of it has to do with economics and education.One of the reasons that Christianity is easy to pick on in the west is that we generally have a higher level of education and economic status.
Then when you look at the leadership of said groups based on those socioeconomic conditions you realize they are looking to achieve different results based on basic needs.
The UN literally wanted to put sanction on Muslim countries that killed LGBT members, among other minorities. You know what countries were against that? Mostly conservative, traditionalist and/or Christian countries like Russia.
Clearly, it's not an issue that's being ignored. What is being ignored is how many Muslim activists there are who fight against homophobia and misogyny. People rarely talk about that.
If you want a real double standard: A Muslim woman wearing traditional Islamic clothes can often be the subject of discrimination, even police can force them to take their clothes off. Nobody does that to Christian women wearing traditional attire. mmm
Originally posted by MythLordExcellent post 👆
The UN literally wanted to put sanction on Muslim countries that killed LGBT members, among other minorities. You know what countries were against that? Mostly conservative, traditionalist and/or Christian countries like Russia.Clearly, it's not an issue that's being ignored. What is being ignored is how many Muslim activists there are who fight against homophobia and misogyny. People rarely talk about that.
If you want a real double standard: A Muslim woman wearing traditional Islamic clothes can often be the subject of discrimination, even police can force them to take their clothes off. Nobody does that to Christian women wearing traditional attire. mmm
Originally posted by MythLord
The UN literally wanted to put sanction on Muslim countries that killed LGBT members, among other minorities. You know what countries were against that? Mostly conservative, traditionalist and/or Christian countries like Russia.Clearly, it's not an issue that's being ignored. What is being ignored is how many Muslim activists there are who fight against homophobia and misogyny. People rarely talk about that.
If you want a real double standard: A Muslim woman wearing traditional Islamic clothes can often be the subject of discrimination, even police can force them to take their clothes off. Nobody does that to Christian women wearing traditional attire. mmm
Tell that to all the Christians being killed in Syria because their Christians.
I also don’t see anyone here in the US going up to Muslims and forcing them to remove their Hijab.
Also this is the UN that refuses to call out Iran for their crimes against humanity.
Originally posted by SquallXWell I could talk about Muslims being killed by Christian terrorists in the CAR, but you've never heard of the CAR. Same but different, neither is what most Christians or Muslims are about.
Tell that to all the Christians being killed in Syria because their Christians.I also don’t see anyone here in the US going up to Muslims and forcing them to remove their Hijab.
Also this is the UN that refuses to call out Iran for their crimes against humanity.
Originally posted by Silent MasterDepends on the type of Christian, Coptic Christians, orthodox Jews and Muslim women all cover their hair and dress very conservatively. Eastern Christianity, is very different African (which often incorporates local traditions), is very different to Christianity in the far East or South America. It's actually the same with Islam.
BTW, what exactly do you consider traditional Christian attire?