SSB Gogeta v.s. MUI Goku and LB Jiren

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Team gets murdered.

Could Vegeto even keep up with UI as far as speed though?

Gogeta wins.

Gogeta

You should have kept him at Super Saiyan or base.

Jiren wins though.

Originally posted by Damborgson
You should have kept him at Super Saiyan or base.

Jiren wins though.

One of those is serious, the other one not so much 😛

idk...the way MUI was introduced was just way more epic than Gogeta

Goku says Broly>Beerus

Beerus> Average Gods of Destruction
LB Jiren> Beerus
and MUI Goku>Jiren
if god of destruction power is 1, Beerus is 1.2. Jiren would be 1.4, MUI Goku would be 1.6, Whis would be 2

Broly at his peak would be 1.3

It took him 60 min and couldn't finish golden frieza who at best equal a lower end god of destruction, granted he was not in final form

Gogeta was beaten down Broly comfortably, but was still trading blow, it was not like vegito toying buuhan level easy

let's say he's at least twice as powerful, then he be somewhere between 1.5-1.7

I don't see he can beat MUI Goku, let alone with LB Jiren together

SSB Vegita and Goku couldn't even put a scratch on Jiren
and they were fighting Yellow hair Broly evenly at times. (yes I know green hair Broly is much more powerful but still)

honestly the power level is messy there's no easy way to tell

one correction: Golden Frieza at his best equal SSB, no where near any god of destruction and he was able to take hits from Broly without gettin killed

Originally posted by MrMind
SSB Vegita and Goku couldn't even put a scratch on Jiren
and they were fighting Yellow hair Broly evenly at times.

Originally posted by MrMind
one correction: Golden Frieza at his best equal SSB, no where near any god of destruction and he was able to take hits from Broly without gettin killed

Freeza's physical durability has always been absurd.

But Jiren made short work of Frieza with just a kick and a punch. Toppo even took Frieza out with a casual blast, and then he took him out again easily afterwards.

Freeza ultimately endured ALL the beatings he sustained during the ToP, as he was still there at the end.

Moreover, it is implied in this film that Freeza has become significantly more powerful, as Vegeta now considers him a legitimate threat.

Originally posted by carver9
But Jiren made short work of Frieza with just a kick and a punch. Toppo even took Frieza out with a casual blast, and then he took him out again easily afterwards.

Bro Jiren isn’t the end all be all like you think he was. Goku clearly superior to him.

there is no indication that the fight between gogeta and lssj broly is superior than the MUI vs Jiren fight from 129-130

the dimensions shattering affects was cool and all, but the epicness at the end of episode 129 when goku was godly, the level he reached here, there's no argument gogeta> that

Gogeta rapes them

My personal opinion is if Goku would put Jiren above Beerus he would have said something like "Broly you are almost as strong as Jiren." but he said Beerus instead.

So you can guess who Goku thinks is stronger out of the 2.

Originally posted by Estacado
My personal opinion is if Goku would put Jiren above Beerus he would have said something like "Broly you are almost as strong as Jiren." but he said Beerus instead.

So you can guess who Goku thinks is stronger out of the 2.

Especially since Broly, Cheelai, and Lemo didn't have a clue who either one of them were, so it's not like Goku used Beerus as a point of comparison because they were more familiar with him or w/e. Beerus was used as the reference because Goku still considers him to be the pinnacle of power, imo. Broly is beyond that.

Or Broly could be closer to power to Beerus than Jiren. During the beginning people were comparing Jiren power to Beerus. By the end of it, Jiren was dipping in power far beyond what we saw or knew during his first comparison.

I mentioned this in another thread, but that works IF you think Broly was intended to be sub-Jiren-level. Personally, I've never seen the threats decrease in power as the plot progresses in DB, and I haven't been given any legitimate reason to start thinking that's the case here(especially with the feats/accolades Broly has racked up.) Imo, the context of Goku's statement implies that he still views Beerus as the top dog, and Broly has now surpassed that.

If Goku had compared Broly to Jiren instead of Beerus, I have no doubt that some of you would be using that as proof of Jiren's superiority over everyone else, so why should this be any different?