Let's talk about Men and Women.

Started by Putinbot117 pages

Let's talk about Men and Women.

One of the narratives I see propagated on the Internet is women are heartless creatures, only out for money and men are always hurt by these bitches. Men always come out of it worse, I'd argue it's rare when a relationship.collapses either person is pain free and blame free.

I'll tell you a story, once upon a time, not so long ago. I said something, it broke someone I loved trust in me. I didn't cheat on her, but I'd been away working and got to close to someone else. The woman I loved was heart broken, they thought I had, they had a full breakdown and didn't work for almost a year, they developed a gambling addiction and racked up 8K debts, when they got a bit better I saw them offered to pay the debt. They wouldn't let me, they had lost everything. The person had another breakdown after seeing me again, a third party explained they'd cried on there kitchen floor for 4 hours saying how much they still loved me. I promised this woman's mother I would never seek her out again after she begged me on the phone not to speak to her daughter who had been readmitted...

Relationships are complex, people make mistakes women get hurt too.

The concept only.men get hurt really worries me as it's creating a generation of men with no empathy or sense of self worth, and women who only have contempt for them.

The woman you were dating had a severe mental illness and you dodged a bullet.

Originally posted by Surtur
The woman you were dating had a severe mental illness and you dodged a bullet.
I'd been with her for years, she had always been stable. So... yes she had one, but it was caused by loss.

Btw sounds like you had an emotional affair with another woman.

Originally posted by Surtur
Btw sounds like you had an emotional affair with another woman.
It was a friendship, I did have a full relationship with her at a later date.

So she got crazy over a friendship and she's not mentally ill.

Did you or did you not give her a valid reason to doubt you?

What some people fail to realize is women are human.

They aren't these poor innocent helpless creatures who dindu nuffin and are solely the victims of life circumstances and can't be held accountable for their actions.

They aren't these paragons of virtue that men fail to be.

And they aren't these manipulative sociopaths whose mission in life is to break men.

Originally posted by Surtur
So she got crazy over a friendship and she's not mentally ill.

Did you or did you not give her a valid reason to doubt you?

In her eyes, I clearly did. She misunderstood a situation and lost her trust in me. When people believe something it's almost impossible to change there mind. If it's about someone they care about and they have lost trust, the mind can just go. I think that's what happened. Misunderstandings are often simply that, however they can sow seeds of distrust and at the most extreme shatter someone's world. In some ways it's a story as old as time, an individual's world is built around someone and something cracks that world.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
What some people fail to realize is women are human.

They aren't these poor innocent helpless creatures who dindu nuffin and are solely the victims of life circumstances and can't be held accountable for their actions.

They aren't these paragons of virtue that men fail to be.

And they aren't these manipulative sociopaths whose mission in life is to break men.

Exactly DMB people are people.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
In her eyes, I clearly did. She misunderstood a situation and lost her trust in me. When people believe something it's almost impossible to change there mind. If it's about someone they care about and they have lost trust, the mind can just go. I think that's what happened. Misunderstandings are often simply that, however they can sow seeds of distrust and at the most extreme shatter someone's world. In some ways it's a story as old as time, an individual's world is built around someone and something cracks that world.

I still feel like it's not your fault she is mentally ill. Perhaps your actions brought her mental illness forward, but don't blame yourself for her laying on the kitchen floor for hours talking about how she loves you. That's legit crazy behavior.

Originally posted by Surtur
I still feel like it's not your fault she is mentally ill. Perhaps your actions brought her mental illness forward, but don't blame yourself for her laying on the kitchen floor for hours talking about how she loves you. That's legit crazy behavior.
From what I heard she tried to top herself a couple of times subsequently.

It's kind of you to say that, I'm not so sure. Love is complex and she clearly loved me, perhaps too much.

Whirly, this thread is sad and depressing.

I feel sorry for the women, the children, and you.

Do you ever hate your narcissism and what it has done to you are your families? It's great in the work place (when channeled properly) but abslutely terrible in home-life.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Whirly, this thread is sad and depressing.

I feel sorry for the women, the children, and you.

Do you ever hate your narcissism and what it has done to you are your families? It's great in the work place (when channeled properly) but abslutely terrible in home-life.

This isn't actually a mother of my children, I speak to both of those mate, it'simportant for the kids. But relationships are complex, few people are ever blame free. Men or women.

Yea but why do you post such narcissistic threads? Can you not see how vomit worthy they are man, why not be humble?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Yea but why do you post such narcissistic threads? Can you not see how vomit worthy they are man, why not be humble?
I don't think this isn't humble, I do think it shows clearly the narrative all woman are evil is not a good one.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I don't think this isn't humble, I do think it shows clearly the narrative all woman are evil is not a good one.

Sort of like the narrative that many/most conservatives are racist is not a good one, right?

Why is every post about women though, if you have a gf/wife, be happy with it and I'm happy for you, but why do you need to garner such attention about it?

I don't post much about my problems but when I do, its a problem I need help with like deleting facebook, but I never talk about my medals from the wars or the hot women I been with. I don't see the need. No one here is going to care much anyway. And it would just make me look self-important.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Why is every post about women though, if you have a gf/wife, be happy with it and I'm happy for you, but why do you need to garner such attention about it?

I don't post much about my problems but when I do, its a problem I need help with like deleting facebook, but I never talk about my medals from the wars or the hot women I been with. I don't see the need. No one here is going to care much anyway. And it would just make me look self-important.

Combine this with his super weird obsession with incels and I'm not sure what the hell is going on in this dudes life...

Putin,

You follow comics, don't you?

I ask, because there was an origin story for Batwing, a black character who dons a high tech suit. In it, he has a weakling friend right out of Revenge of the Nerds. He thinks people pick on him because he's weak: The truth is, he throws hissy fits, carelessly throwing his cell phone at a jock that happened have his head in the way, and instead of apologising he acts like a cuck, so he gets hit.

He then orders a "strength building kit" on the internet, which turns him into a literal monster. Who then proceeds to murder the jock who hit him

Batwing, before he became Batwing, confronts him about the murder, and many others. The reaction was perfect: The literal monster who just commited unspeakable acts or murder stands there and rants: "I'M! THE! VICTIM!!!"

I think the writer had a very good grasp of the type of men you're talking about.

Originally posted by Surtur
Sort of like the narrative that many/most conservatives are racist is not a good one, right?
that's a little different t, most conservatives are... racists. I don't have an obsession with Incels, I just feel most the guys who spout shit about woman, feminism etc do it because they are sexually frustrated. Unlike people like Peterson, I think economics has little to do with most relationships and I think these guys would be better off trying rather than getting angry and going down the Incel/alt right rabbit hole.