Let's talk about Men and Women.

Started by Emperordmb17 pages
Emperordmb LSDMB

Here's the thing, you are conflating criticism of ideology with bigotry and extremism.

PatientLeach for example hasn't been coy about his contempt for all religious belief systems. He has argued that Islam is dangerous, and he's argued that Christianity is a dangerous ideology.

I don't think PatientLeach is a political extremist who wants to people violently assault or mass murder Muslims or Christians. That's an absurd leap in logic.

I don't even think Rocky, as much as he's followed me around in threads just to try and bait me on my religious views, and claimed that anyone whose religious is dangerous and promotes authoritarianism, is some political extremist who supports acts of terror against religious people.

Or what about you? You have, in the aftermath of this shooting, been shitting on incels and MRAs. Does that mean that you'd support unprovoked violence against MRAs or Incels?

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Here's the thing, you are conflating criticism of ideology with bigotry and extremism.

PatientLeach for example hasn't been coy about his contempt for all religious belief systems. He has argued that Islam is dangerous, and he's argued that Christianity is a dangerous ideology.

I don't think PatientLeach is a political extremist who wants to people violently assault or mass murder Muslims or Christians. That's an absurd leap in logic.

I don't even think Rocky, as much as he's followed me around in threads to try and bait me on my religious views, and claimed that anyone whose religion is dangerous and promotes authoritarianism, is some political extremist who supports acts of terror against religious people.

Or what about you? You have, in the aftermath of this shooting, been shitting on incels and MRAs. Does that mean that you'd support unprovoked violence against MRAs or Incels?

of course not, which is the point I am taking, when you attack a reasonable belief system which all three people of the books are when in non-extremist forms, you create a climate that propagates bigotry. Particularly in online echo chambers where like-minded bigots validate each other's intolerance ironically under the ban of free speech. The incel problem is not going away, and enablers need to understand the climate they are responsible for.

dadudemon Senior Member
Originally posted by Putinbot1
True for most of KMCs far right, they enable a climate, they are the kid who laughs along with the bully.

I agree with the post of yours you quoted, as well.

Most conservatives I talk to are a little bit racist. They hold fears and ignorance towards those who are different. They are also classist.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree with the post of yours you quoted, as well.

Most conservatives I talk to are a little bit racist. They hold fears and ignorance towards those who are different. They are also classist.

👆

Putinbot1 Restricted

The NZ shooter was an incel

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/website-kiwi-farms-refuses-to-surrender-data-linked-to-accused-christchurch-terrorist-brendan-tarrant/news-story/46d3c925ef84b24dde6194c42b3c2241

BrolyBlack Restricted

Originally posted by Putinbot1
The NZ shooter was an incel

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/website-kiwi-farms-refuses-to-surrender-data-linked-to-accused-christchurch-terrorist-brendan-tarrant/news-story/46d3c925ef84b24dde6194c42b3c2241

Why did you post this in 5 different threads, if like you claim all the threads are different.

dadudemon Senior Member
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Why did you post this in 5 different threads, if like you claim all the threads are different.

Since he wants to drive that point home, I have a question about it:

Does his incel-hood have anything to do with the attack? Meaning, if we sent a lady of the night to visit him, would that stop the attack?

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by dadudemon
Since he wants to drive that point home, I have a question about it:

Does his incel-hood have anything to do with the attack? Meaning, if we sent a lady of the night to visit him, would that stop the attack?

i think notbso much, i think its about stake in the world and connection with others. I think its where all extremists overlap.

shiv Spirit of Tengu

The female client:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/strictlys-karen-clifton-sobs-after-14154945

The female business owner:

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1101957/karen-clifton-instagram-strictly-come-dancing-david-webb-hair-latest-news

mike brown Senior Member

Originally posted by Putinbot1
In her eyes, I clearly did. She misunderstood a situation and lost her trust in me. When people believe something it's almost impossible to change there mind. If it's about someone they care about and they have lost trust, the mind can just go. I think that's what happened. Misunderstandings are often simply that, however they can sow seeds of distrust and at the most extreme shatter someone's world. In some ways it's a story as old as time, an individual's world is built around someone and something cracks that world.
this is exactly the kind of possessiveness that I hate about monogamous relationships

No offense but I agree with Surtur you are better off without her

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by mike brown
this is exactly the kind of possessiveness that I hate about monogamous relationships

No offense but I agree with Surtur you are better off without her

i probably am bettet off without her. I never disagreed there. 👆

mike brown Senior Member

Originally posted by dadudemon
Since he wants to drive that point home, I have a question about it:

Does his incel-hood have anything to do with the attack? Meaning, if we sent a lady of the night to visit him, would that stop the attack?

there's nothing stopping incels from getting a prostitute. What they want is for women to desire them based on their looks alone.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by mike brown
there's nothing stopping incels from getting a prostitute. What they want is for women to desire them based on their looks alone.
👆 they lack the social where-with-all to form proper mutually sustaining emotional partnerships, which is what they need most.

Robtard Senor Member

Going from ranting of shitlords like Rodger Elliot (2014 Isla Vista murderer) and some other Incels, they believe they're both owed attractive women and women should come to them because of those feelings of entitlement.

mike brown Senior Member

My understanding is that the self described incels have a sort of obsession with physical beauty and believe they are genetically doomed to a life of solitude. They think women are being shallow in their decisions of who to sleep with. They don't seem to entertain the idea that if they weren't so insecure and had more confidence and a better personality they could maybe find a girlfriend. I could be wrong but I believe a lot of them are also on the spectrum.

Chuck_Schumer Member

It seems incels only value women for their physical assets. Perhaps state-funded fleshlights and sex-dolls could solve their violent tendencies. The technology only continues to improve.

Robtard Senor Member

That's not a bad idea.

I've also proposed in the past that maybe if they just f**ked each other, using each other's mouths and/or buttholes as sexual outlets, that would relieve them of their sexual frustration and we'd not have any more murder sprees out of them and they could still hate on women online on sites like MGTOW until their fingertips bleed.

dadudemon Senior Member
Originally posted by mike brown
there's nothing stopping incels from getting a prostitute. What they want is for women to desire them based on their looks alone.

Yes, the legality is getting in the way. Almost all are not law-breakers. But if we start a trend in the Incel-communities to rent some time with a gal, I think the entire world would be a better place.

mike brown Senior Member

I don't agree, just from what I've read about them. Paying for sex is not exactly a self esteem booster for someone whose insecurity stems from feeling rejected and unwanted by the opposite sex.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by mike brown
My understanding is that the self described incels have a sort of obsession with physical beauty and believe they are genetically doomed to a life of solitude. They think women are being shallow in their decisions of who to sleep with. They don't seem to entertain the idea that if they weren't so insecure and had more confidence and a better personality they could maybe find a girlfriend. I could be wrong but I believe a lot of them are also on the spectrum.
if this is true for most of them they wre even weierder than i thought...