Remember the whole "Let Transgender People use Whatever Bathroom they Want' Argument?

Started by NemeBro12 pages

Originally posted by Impediment
Being trans isn't wrong, IMO,
Not morally, but you disagree with the fundamental premise that a biological man who identifies as a woman should be considered as such, right?

Originally posted by StyleTime
A certain percentage of people are perverted assholes. Transgendered people are people. Naturally, some of them will be perverted assholes.

Regardless, the whole transgender bathroom thing misses the point. We should all be using the same ****ing bathrooms regardless of gender.

You ever see the bathroom situation at a big event? I kind of like not having to wait in line an hour.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Not morally, but you disagree with the fundamental premise that a biological man who identifies as a woman should be considered as such, right?

Why should others be forced to take part in another's delusions?

I don't think Imp has any problem considering a biological man who identifies as a woman as just that, a biological man who identifies as a woman.

People really need to understand that gender and sex aren't the same thing. Dysphoria and other biological deviations happen. The solution to this diagnosis isn't to force people into a role determined solely by their genitals.

Like I said.. Reality is a Problem with Modern Society.

Honestly, if I have any reservations at all, it's from the notion that common definitions are somehow "oppressive", and that majority definitions must change to accommodate the few.

It's one thing to say "Feminity must change. Women could play football."

Or "Masculinity is too rigid. Men could bake."

But here we're saying "Definitions don't exist, why won't you accept our definitions."

Originally posted by cdtm
Honestly, if I have any reservations at all, it's from the notion that common definitions are somehow "oppressive", and that majority definitions must change to accommodate the few.

It's one thing to say "Women could play football."

Or "Men could bake."

But here we're saying "Definitions don't exist, why won't you accept our definitions."


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Remember when we let men who were born men and who identify as men into any bathroom.

https://www.google.com/search?q=man+molesest+little+boy+in+bathroom&oq=man+molesest+little+boy+in+bathroom&aqs=chrome..69i57.12207j0j4&client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

your point is invalid because fee-fees; and this topic proves it, because reasons

I have a genuine question, why not desegregate all bathrooms?

Because public bathrooms are awkward enough, you have to piss next to people you don't even know. At least if everyone is on the same team its a bit less awkward.

I went to a gay pub once with 'unisex' bathrooms, only difference was one had urinals and one didn't. Simply easy solution. If you want privacy there are always stalls.

Well who defines what the same team is?

Why is it bigoted to define it by one category (sex), but progressive to define it by another (gender)?

Why is it bigoted to suggest transgender women could sexually assault women, but progressive to be concerned with cisgender men sexually assaulting women?

Why is it bigoted for a ciswoman to be uncomfortable with a transgender woman in the same bathroom as her, but perfectly natural for her to be uncomfortable with a cisman in the same bathroom as her?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I have a genuine question, why not desegregate all bathrooms?

If it puts the outrage to rest, I'm all for it.

I can just pee behind a wall, if every bathrooms becomes an inaccessible line of women. 😈

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Why is it bigoted to define it by one category (sex), but progressive to define it by another (gender)?

Neither is bigoted, nor progressive. It's bigoted to assume ones genitals automatically mean a person needs to act a certain way and do certain things.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Why is it bigoted to suggest transgender women could sexually assault women, but progressive to be concerned with cisgender men sexually assaulting women?

It's bigoted when your concearn wants to prevent an entire group of people from using a bathroom. There's a possibility a cisgendered woman can assault another woman in the bathroom, as well. Hell, there's a possibility a cis man just follows a girl into a woman's bathroom and rapes her there(as has happened before). Should we just not make bathrooms a thing in public places now?
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Why is it bigoted for a ciswoman to be uncomfortable with a transgender woman in the same bathroom as her, but perfectly natural for her to be uncomfortable with a cisman in the same bathroom as her?

Being uncomfortable doesn't mean it should be illegal. I'm uncomfortable with Neo-Nazis having the right to express their homophobic, racist, misogynist point of views, but I cannot prevent them from doing so.

I personally would like a unisex bathroom, for everyone.

these mentally unstable freaks need to stay in their appropriate biological restrooms.

if it was born with a cock, it's a dude. identifying as something doesnt actually make you that something.

Originally posted by MythLord
Neither is bigoted, nor progressive. It's bigoted to assume ones genitals automatically mean a person needs to act a certain way and do certain things.

It's bigoted when your concearn wants to prevent an entire group of people from using a bathroom. There's a possibility a cisgendered woman can assault another woman in the bathroom, as well. Hell, there's a possibility a cis man just follows a girl into a woman's bathroom and rapes her there(as has happened before). Should we just not make bathrooms a thing in public places now?

Being uncomfortable doesn't mean it should be illegal. I'm uncomfortable with Neo-Nazis having the right to express their homophobic, racist, misogynist point of views, but I cannot prevent them from doing so.

I personally would like a unisex bathroom, for everyone.


You seem to actually be ideologically consistent on this issue.

My problem really is the double think with some people who invest a lot of moral outrage and posturing into this issue but don't really take the logic to its conclusion.

I truthfully don't care much about the issue itself. Idgaf if all biological men or in my rest room, or everyone who identifies as a man, or everyone regardless of sex and gender identification.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
these mentally unstable freaks need to stay in their appropriate biological restrooms.

if it was born with a cock, it's a dude. identifying as something doesnt actually make you that something.

The law doesn't care about your feelings. 😈

Seriously though, study the lawsuits behind this. It's fascenating stuff.

You'll start to ask, "Wait a minute, the guy suing the Boy Scouts of America for pushing religion at his 12 year old son is atheist. And he's a lawyer. And his 12 year old son is informed on his rights not to hear Christianity.

So why did this Atheist father send his Atheist son to an organization that's known for its Christian bias/roots again?
Oh, $120,000. That's why."

That's not something a website or newspaper reported. Just something I noticed, looking through cases.

i just have a problem with his whole "i think i'm [x] gender, therefore i am" mentality the new generation has. its ridiculous.

I could "identify" as a moose, but that doesn't actually make me a moose. same vein, a man can "identify" as a female all they want, but that doesn't change the fact that they are still biologically a male.

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's not a ****ing kangaroo.