Originally posted by BackFire
We’re going to have a contested convention. Sanders will have the most pledged delegates as well as there overall popular vote but not the majority needed to secure the nomination. Super delegates will ignore the will of the people and give the nomination to Biden. It will be a repeat on 2016 and Biden will lose to Trump despite getting more votes but the democratic establishment will now have no room to whine about it because they essentially will have done the same thing in the primary.
I want Sanders, but I still think Biden has an easier chance of beating Trump than Sanders does.
One of the few things I agree with Trumpers on.
Originally posted by BackFire
We’re going to have a contested convention. Sanders will have the most pledged delegates as well as there overall popular vote but not the majority needed to secure the nomination. Super delegates will ignore the will of the people and give the nomination to Biden. It will be a repeat on 2016 and Biden will lose to Trump despite getting more votes but the democratic establishment will now have no room to whine about it because they essentially will have done the same thing in the primary.
Jesus H Chrsit don't you even whisper such heresy.
You're right, though. They would rather have Trump in office than Bernie. The DNC is completely crooked. They would rather completely fu#k over the party and the people than see Bernie get the nomination.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yup lol.
Honestly though, I think Sanders would lose even harder to Trump than Biden would. Biden, as much as I dislike him, is more of a moderate and Bernie supports really crazy ideas and is an admitted socialist. Which is fine I guess for the dem primary but during the general would hurt him... A LOT, despite how much him and his supporters would try arguing that "democratic" socialism is not the same thing as "socialism socialism" lol.
Also, his stupid comments about Castro would hurt him in the general as well.
Originally posted by BackFire
We’re going to have a contested convention. Sanders will have the most pledged delegates as well as there overall popular vote but not the majority needed to secure the nomination. Super delegates will ignore the will of the people and give the nomination to Biden. It will be a repeat on 2016 and Biden will lose to Trump despite getting more votes but the democratic establishment will now have no room to whine about it because they essentially will have done the same thing in the primary.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
No, they'll still whine, shameless as it may be. And then, probably blame Bernie.
Yup, bingo. Sadly you're probably right...
Once Trump beats their fu#king corporate whore candidate they'll blame Sanders for fracturing the party and causing so much controversy and division. Perfect way to demonize the people's progressive agenda.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yup lol.Honestly though, I think Sanders would lose even harder to Trump than Biden would. Biden, as much as I dislike him, is more of a moderate and Bernie supports really crazy ideas and is an admitted socialist. Which is fine I guess for the dem primary but during the general would hurt him... A LOT, despite how much him and his supporters would try arguing that "democratic" socialism is not the same thing as "socialism socialism" lol.
Also, his stupid comments about Castro would hurt him in the general as well.
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lmfao. It IS a dirty term. That is an undeniable fact because it is a shitty economic system; you can deny it all you like.
But hey, hopefully Bernie will get the nomination and then american electorate will show you just what we all truly think about it. 🙂
Might wanna have your tissues ready though to wipe away your tears for the epic ass whoopin' Bernie would no doubt receive from the highly successful capitalist. 😉
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
lmfao. It IS a dirty term. That is an undeniable fact because it is a shitty economic system; you can deny it all you like.But hey, hopefully Bernie will get the nomination and then american electorate will show you just what we all truly think about it. 🙂
Might wanna have your tissues ready though to wipe away your tears for the epic ass whoopin' Bernie would no doubt receive from the highly successful capitalist. 😉
Your definition of the word "fact" is a bit different from everyone else's, I see.
Oh, you poor pathetic Bernie supporters just don't get it do you? The American populace as a whole does not and never will embrace socialism (and no, there is no such thing as a "good kind" of socialism).
It may come as a shock to you commie-loving dumbasses, but the people on twitter and this forum are not representative of the american electorate. You can make all the jokes and spin it however you want to but come November you sad losers won't be the ones laughing. 👆
Socialism sucks. Period. And it is just communism in disguise.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Precisely.They've endorsed Biden to stop Sanders. Likely establishment pricks got to them.
Which makes me wonder what the hell is going to happen with Bloomfu#k in the mix. It could be good for Sanders, right? Splitting the moderate vote between Biden and Bloom?
Bloomberg is primarily concerned with unseating Trump. He entered the primary to get around campaign finance laws, so he can pour unlimited amounts of money into the race to help Democrats. He runs negative ads in every market attacking Trump, and the real Democratic candidates get to keep their hands clean going into the general election.
Originally posted by BackFire
We’re going to have a contested convention. Sanders will have the most pledged delegates as well as there overall popular vote but not the majority needed to secure the nomination. Super delegates will ignore the will of the people and give the nomination to Biden. It will be a repeat on 2016 and Biden will lose to Trump despite getting more votes but the democratic establishment will now have no room to whine about it because they essentially will have done the same thing in the primary.
I think they are trying to avoid a contested convention by clearing the field now. There was a progressive lane occupied by Sanders and Warren, and a moderate lane occupied by Biden, Buttigieg, and Klobuchar. By consolidating the moderate vote before super Tuesday, there is a stronger possibility of Biden reaching the delegate threshold by the convention, avoiding that problem altogether.
Originally posted by BackFire
I hope whoever is the nominee is the one who has the most pledged delegates. Otherwise there will be so much bad blood from supporters of the other nominee that it will likely guarantee a Trump win.
Yup, it's very likely. But like I said, largely the DNC and Neo liberals don't care if Trump wins again. They can spin it to blame the disunity on Bernie.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Yup, it's very likely. But like I said, largely the DNC and Neo liberals don't care if Trump wins again. They can spin it to blame the disunity on Bernie.
And that would suck. It would be unfortunate. This is part of why I think the Democratic Party is on it's way to obsolete. They are still stuck playing the gossip and reputation games of the 90s and 2000s. They are going to work themselves out of relevancy if they don't mature as a party.
Perhaps we will get a new party out of the ashes of the Democratic Party. A better one?
All I know is, I cannot count on the GOP to deliver the proper policies I'm interested in. But at least they are consistently xenophobic, sexist, corporatist, warmongerers. Wait, that's the Dems, too. Okay, the GOP is open about being all those things.