2020 Presidential Election Discussion

Originally posted by Blakemore
Not just Texas and Arizona, Florida too.

Yep, I just mentioned the two where Trump should have large to huge leads.

Trump only averaged about half a point lead for Florida in 2016 and then took it by about 1.2

Originally posted by Robtard
I checked: Biden's still leading in both Texas and Arizona, not by a huge number, but ahead, where Trump should be ahead, way ahead like he was in 2016.

In 2016 Trump had AZ by +4 and TX by +11 averages.

I checked and Trump is leading by a significant margin in Texas:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html

Biden is leading by a significant margin in Arizona:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/az/arizona_trump_vs_biden-6807.html

And in Florida, the lead Biden had is almost completely gone with 1 out of 5 of the recent polls now showing Trump ahead, 1 out of the 5 showing a tie, and 3 out of the 5 showing Biden ahead:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html#polls

In Florida, 2016, Clinton was ahead a majority of the time in the majority of the polls:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5963.html#polls

If even 1 out o the 5 major pollsters shows Trump ahead the next polling cycle (based on the trend, it is moving in that direction), that puts Trump further ahead in Florida in 2020 than in 2016.

Florida as of 9/8/2020 Biden is 1.2+ lead: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html

Arizona as of 9/06/20 Biden is 5.7+ lead: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/az/arizona_trump_vs_biden-6807.html

Texas as of 9/02/2020 Trump is 3.5+ lead: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html

Trump vs Clinton in Florida 2016, Trump had a 0.4+ lead average: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_clinton-5635.html

Was wrong about Texas using RCP, but Trump should be way ahead here like he was in 2016 with an almost 12 point lead: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_clinton-5694.html

DDM as ever trying to pick holes when exposed. Oh DDM.

What's happening is the "unbeatable" and "unstoppable" Trump is looking like he could potentially lose** and the panic is setting in.

**I still think he will be a one term POTUS, said this since he took office in 2017. His cheating antics and abuse of power could sway it though

I'm still wondering which swing states he'll win and which he'll lose.

I just watched someone on MSNBC say Trump has been encouraging looting and protesting from his supporters.

😂

If the election were held today I think Biden would win. But we still have 2 months and 3 debates and if Biden really crashes and burns during the debates it could hurt him. Plus any kind of October surprise.

Originally posted by BackFire
If the election were held today I think Biden would win. But we still have 2 months and 3 debates and if Biden really crashes and burns during the debates it could hurt him. Plus any kind of October surprise.

Change the debate format to what?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I just watched someone on MSNBC say Trump has been encouraging looting and protesting from his supporters.

😂

It's cult behavior. It's one of the reasons they try to project onto others that *they* are the ones behaving like a cult.

Originally posted by Blakemore
So Trump isn't going to change the debate format? This will bite him in the ass.

Trump simply wanted to debate before mail in voting started and to not have the debates on a night that football was playing.........there could be more but thats what I recall.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I just watched someone on MSNBC say Trump has been encouraging looting and protesting from his supporters.

😂

*citation needed*

I watched it live, you dont believe me old pal?

Originally posted by BackFire
Change the debate format to what?

Originally posted by snowdragon
Trump simply wanted to debate before mail in voting started and to not have the debates on a night that football was playing.........there could be more but thats what I recall.

Originally posted by Blakemore
4 pres debates, no VP debate and the mods are not picked by an independent source but 2 who are biased towards the dems and 2 who are biased towards the GOP. I can somewhat see the logic in being equally biased towards both, but this is kinda unfair to third parties, and just seems like a dumb idea. Needless to say, it probs won't happen.

"However political parties may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”

George Washington

Why no vp debate? That’s a dumb request. Trump must be afraid Harris will shit on Pence.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
"However political parties may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”

George Washington

That’s not what I said or meant