2020 Presidential Election Discussion

Originally posted by BackFire
I can’t speak to their accuracy. We will see how accurate these are in November. But it does suggest that there were a lot of undecideds in 2016. This year there don’t seem to be.

Originally posted by Surtur
So just to be clear, *this* time the polls that say he loses can be trusted? Is this the narrative u guys wanna push?

Type it out. "The polls got it right this year". Who wants to say it first?

Usually around <5%

I think only Wisconsin was truly off.

Trump's failing miserably. I still think it'll be fairly close, but Trump has pretty much lost Michigan and Arizona. If Biden flips any other swing state, he wins.

I didn’t say anything about accuracy. It’s impossible to know how accurate they are until November.

I’m not sure I buy the silent trump voter this time. It made sense in 2016 because he was a newcomer and kind of embarrassing. But I think people are generally pretty used to his antics this time and may not be so embarrassed to say that they support him this time. Because while Biden’s numbers are higher than Clinton’s were last time, Trump’s numbers are also higher than they were in 2016. Instead of polling in the high 30’s he’s usually in the mid 40’s or so. So that could suggest those silent Trump voters from 2016 may not be silent anymore.

Originally posted by Blakemore
What is margin of error, you say?

Usually around <5%

I think only Wisconsin was truly off.

Trump's failing miserably. I still think it'll be fairly close, but Trump has pretty much lost Michigan and Arizona. If Biden flips any other swing state, he wins.

I get it, the polls support your narrative so they are obviously more correct.

Originally posted by BackFire
I didn’t say anything about accuracy. It’s impossible to know how accurate they are until November.

I’m not sure I buy the silent trump voter this time. It made sense in 2016 because he was a newcomer and kind of embarrassing. But I think people are generally pretty used to his antics this time and may not be so embarrassed to say that they support him this time. Because while Biden’s numbers are higher than Clinton’s were last time, Trump’s numbers are also higher than they were in 2016. Instead of polling in the high 30’s he’s usually in the mid 40’s or so. So that could suggest those silent Trump voters from 2016 may not be silent anymore.

Oh given the sheer hatred for Trump how could you *not* buy it?

Little kids got f*cking egged at a pro trump rally. Stow this bullshit.

Originally posted by BackFire
I didn’t say anything about accuracy. It’s impossible to know how accurate they are until November.

I’m not sure I buy the silent trump voter this time. It made sense in 2016 because he was a newcomer and kind of embarrassing. But I think people are generally pretty used to his antics this time and may not be so embarrassed to say that they support him this time. Because while Biden’s numbers are higher than Clinton’s were last time, Trump’s numbers are also higher than they were in 2016. Instead of polling in the high 30’s he’s usually in the mid 40’s or so. So that could suggest those silent Trump voters from 2016 may not be silent anymore.

Also from my experience trump supporters are very vocal about their support.

But I wasn’t trying to make much of a statement about the polls. I just thought the difference was interesting.

Eggs allegedly thrown at children during rally supporting President Trump: 'This is what the Democrat party represents'

No silent Trump voters tho.

Originally posted by BackFire
Also from my experience trump supporters are very vocal about their support.

But I wasn’t trying to make much of a statement about the polls. I just thought the difference was interesting.

That's a loud small majority.

That may affect the number of people at a rally, but not a lot of pollsters will throw eggs at people.

I was given a Trump shirt as a joke by someone and I just gave it back. I said I can't wear it here and be safe.

Nobody has to worry about that with Biden.

Ok but polls are done privately. You may not feel safe wearing a shirt out but if a pollster called your would you feel like you had to lie to them?

Yes

People, despite not wanting to admit it, do not like being judged. Even by strangers.

I'm flabbergasted u do not realize this.

Ok that’s fair enough. Would you say you were voting for Biden or that you are undecided?

I would just say my vote is private.

I wonder what they mark down when someone says that to them. I assume they just don’t get counted?

Originally posted by Surtur
Biden Platform Would Raise Taxes By $3.4 Trillion, Study Says

More proof the U S has a spending problem.

Not even saying I think Trump will win, just that I think we're seeing the largest silent majority we have seen in a long time.

People are afraid, and with these riots they are even more afraid.

Cato Institute:

Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

We’ll see I guess. I think there were probably more silent ones last time.