Originally posted by Robtard
Still think it's going to be Biden and likely Harris as his VP, unless something drastically changes.Still have hopes for Buttigeig, but that's likely a pipedream.
If Biden wins the nomination, I do not think any of the other candidates will be on the ticket.
But if Harris wins, I could easily see a Harris/Buttigeig ticket.
Originally posted by Robtard
Still think it's going to be Biden and likely Harris as his VP, unless something drastically changes.Still have hopes for Buttigeig, but that's likely a pipedream.
There is no reason why Pete should not be able to get the nomination, the fact that people would vote for Biden over him for the nomination is pure hypocrisy in the democrat party. Pete on paper should walk away with the Nom, he's the best candidate the Dems have, and he will never get the nom.
So its either hypocrisy in the voting base or the primaries are rigged as shown in the 2016 democratic primary.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If Biden wins the nomination, I do not think any of the other candidates will be on the ticket.But if Harris wins, I could easily see a Harris/Buttigeig ticket.
Who do you think he'd pick?
I mentioned a possible Harris/Buttigeig ticket before, but right now I see that as highly unlikely. Still way early in the game though.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
There is no reason why Pete should not be able to get the nomination, the fact that people would vote for Biden over him for the nomination is pure hypocrisy in the democrat party. Pete on paper should walk away with the Nom, he's the best candidate the Dems have, and he will never get the nom.So its either hypocrisy in the voting base or the primaries are rigged as shown in the 2016 democratic primary.
It's still early in the game and Biden right now is way ahead (unless something changed recently).
People voting for Biden over Buttigeig isn't "hypocrisy", people vote how they want. eg You voted from Trump over Kasich and Kasich was a ridiculously better Republican candidate than Trump in 2016. Millions of Trumpers made this same choice in 2016.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
There is no reason why Pete should not be able to get the nomination, the fact that people would vote for Biden over him for the nomination is pure hypocrisy in the democrat party. Pete on paper should walk away with the Nom, he's the best candidate the Dems have, and he will never get the nom.So its either hypocrisy in the voting base or the primaries are rigged as shown in the 2016 democratic primary.
It depends on the concerns of the primary voters. If they want to pick the most qualified candidate, who could be an inspirational and unifying figure for both parties, then they will vote for Buttigeig. If they are risk averse, and primarily concerned with defeating Trump, then they will vote for the candidate that is polling higher than Trump in every state, which Biden.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It depends on the concerns of the primary voters. If they want to pick the most qualified candidate, who could be an inspirational and unifying figure for both parties, then they will vote for Buttigeig. If they are risk averse, and primarily concerned with defeating Trump, then they will vote for the candidate that is polling higher than Trump in every state, which Biden.
I think you might be dreaming if you think Republicans are going to get behind a President Buttigeig, should that happen. They'll talk about unity and then shit on him every opportunity.
Originally posted by Robtard
Who do you think he'd pick?I mentioned a possible Harris/Buttigeig ticket before, but right now I see that as highly unlikely. Still way early in the game though.
He will likely pick a young, bilingual, man of color from a red state. Someone like Joaquin Castro or Ruben Gallego.
Originally posted by Robtard
I think you might be dreaming if you think Republicans are going to get behind a President Buttigeig, should that happen. They'll talk about unity and then shit on him every opportunity.
I think it is important to distinguish between Trump voters and Trump supporters. A number of Democratic-leaning Independents either took a chance on Trump or voted for him in protest. Since that time, many are not happy with the result. These voters, as well as traditional rank-and-file Republicans who do not like what Trump is doing to their party, have expressed that Buttigeig is a Democratic candidate that they would happily cross party lines to vote for. In many ways, Buttigeig is the anti-Trump, and is a striking alternative for the vast swaths of Americans in the middle, who do not follow politics closely, but are exhausted by the drama surrounding this president. I can see him as a unifying figure for both parties, because he is a candidate that people on both sides can look at and say, "This is one thing we can agree on." It could be a return to normalcy and bipartisanship.
Originally posted by Robtard
It's still early in the game and Biden right now is way ahead (unless something changed recently).People voting for Biden over Buttigeig isn't "hypocrisy", people vote how they want. eg You voted from Trump over Kasich and Kasich was a ridiculously better Republican candidate than Trump in 2016. Millions of Trumpers made this same choice in 2016.
I voted for Trump because the country needed a restart and something different. Besides what he says on Twitter, the country is in better shape economically then it was when Obama was in office.
Biden is the past, between his policies on criminal justice, weed, bussing, Anita Hill and touching women all things the party is supposedly against, he shouldn’t get a single vote.
Pete is a new breed and the Dems been saying they want that.
I think a Pete/Williamson ticket would be cool.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
If Biden gets the nomination then we'll likely get another 4 years of Trump. He oozes slimy political insincerity to me....
Possible, but I think Biden can beat Trump after Trump's shitty four years.
In fact, if Biden were to become President he'd need to run against someone like Trump, otherwise he'd already have some career ending moves in a pre-Trump political climate.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I think it is important to distinguish between Trump voters and Trump supporters. A number of Democratic-leaning Independents either took a chance on Trump or voted for him in protest. Since that time, many are not happy with the result. These voters, as well as traditional rank-and-file Republicans who do not like what Trump is doing to their party, have expressed that Buttigeig is a Democratic candidate that they would happily cross party lines to vote for. In many ways, Buttigeig is the anti-Trump, and is a striking alternative for the vast swaths of Americans in the middle, who do not follow politics closely, but are exhausted by the drama surrounding this president. I can see him as a unifying figure for both parties, because he is a candidate that people on both sides can look at and say, "This is one thing we can agree on." It could be a return to normalcy and bipartisanship.
That's fair enough, Trump and his party are a separate animal.
Biden Has 13-Point Lead Over Trump As President's Job Approval Slides: IBD/TIPP Poll
Joe Biden has a big lead over President Donald Trump, the August IBD/TIPP Poll showed. The other top three Democratic presidential contenders enjoyed smaller 2020 election leads over the GOP incumbent. Meanwhile, Trump's job approval fell to a six-month-low 40% in August.
The former vice president leads the Democratic field with 30% support. Biden is followed by Elizabeth Warren at 17%, Bernie Sanders at 12% and Kamala Harris at 11%. -snip
Giggity
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Polls change, IM gad you conceded that that poll I cited through the 2016 election was the most accurate and always predicted Trump was going to win, and you didnt want to beleive it then, but want to use it now as a slap to the face.
Correction: I've been using it to slap Trumpers in their faces for 2+ years now
And yes, thank you again 👆
It doesnt really matter though, because the election hasnt happened yet and we dont even know who the democratic nomiee is going to be, so that poll could be completely erased by whoever the nomiee is, if its not biden.
What are you going to do if you use this poll the whole time, this time and it ends up being wrong? What will you do then?