Captain Marvel vs Superman

Started by Esau Cairn34 pages
Originally posted by NemeBro
Can I assume you concede our debate? 🙂

I kinda assumed you already had conceded when you refused to answer my one simple question...

I think I've asked you 3 times now & you still won't respond. 🙄

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Incapable of bringing forth evidence!

[B] Please QUOTE me saying that "since man doesn't know exactly then the distance between objects in space MUST BE CLOSE"

Please, go on, am eagerly waiting for that quote!

😂 How desperate must you be to bring such a pathetic claim!

First of all, the missiles were clearly already way inside the atmosphere!

a = Gm/r^2

Considering:
G= (the universal gravitational constant) 6.673 x 10-11N·m2kg2
m= (Mass of earth) 5.9736 x 1024 kg
r= (Radious from the center of the larger body to the object. 6,371*10^3m plus height of the object, which let's say it's 100km high above the surface) 6471*10^3m

The aceleration due to gravity would be of 9.51m/s^s!!

Thanks for proving once again that you love to tamper with physics! [/B]

You are basically giving CM super reflexes just because she can go light speed IN SPACE. That's stupid as phuck. Time is everything, speed alone is irrelevant. You have to prove that while traveling, she had to react to shit in less than 0.2 seconds (peak human reactions). In other words, you have to prove that when she traveled, at light speed, she traveled between two objects that were less than 37,000 miles apart. If you can't then you have no evidence that supports here having super fast reflexes. Because every showing she has is human level reactions.

You right about the fact that gravity part. Forgot she stopped it that close to Earth. Was thinking about the distance the ships were in orbit. My mistake.

And you are ignoring this

"Yes prove that Kree have superhuman reflexes, because what's shown trumps what you say. And even if they did then you have to prove what level of superhuman reflexes they have. For example, if they have 10% faster reflexes than the top humans then they would still be a statue to Superman."

Originally posted by h1a8
You are basically giving CM super reflexes just because she can go light speed IN SPACE. That's stupid as phuck. Time is everything, speed alone is irrelevant. You have to prove that while traveling, she had to react to shit in less than 0.2 seconds (peak human reactions). In other words, you have to prove that when she traveled, at light speed, she traveled between two objects that were less than 37,000 miles apart. If you can't then you have no evidence that supports here having super fast reflexes. Because every showing she has is human level reactions.

You right about the fact that gravity part. Forgot she stopped it that close to Earth. Was thinking about the distance the ships were in orbit. My mistake.

And you are ignoring this

"Yes prove that Kree have superhuman reflexes, because what's shown trumps what you say. And even if they did then you have to prove what level of superhuman reflexes they have. For example, if they have 10% faster reflexes than the top humans then they would still be a statue to Superman."

Clearly you are trolling now, not only were you unable to support your accusations but now just ignore what I said

The amount of asteroids intergalactically and interstellarly is UNKNOWN. Therfore, there could be many or very little! FACT IS: THERE ARE ASTEROIDS BETWEEN GALAXIES AND STARS, contrary to what you attempted to make everyone else believe

This is exactly what I said:

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

[B]Summary: There is presence of asteroids in between stars and galaxies although the amounts of these is unknown. In other words, travelling at the speed of light inbetween stars or galaxies without proper reflexes, would be like swimming into a river with 0 visibility of what's underwater, knowing that there are crocodiles living in such river. You don't know how many crocodiles there are, or how near to you they are, but still, only a phucking IDIOT would swim in that river.

Concession accepted.

I don't have to prove that a lion>cat, just like a Kree>human. AoS explicitly proved that and GOTG did too with Ronan.

Superman wins

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I kinda assumed you already had conceded when you refused to answer my one simple question...

I think I've asked you 3 times now & you still won't respond. 🙄

Clark has never had a problem with collateral dams he or engaging female combatants.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You cite popularity all the time you hypocritical fat blob of slime.

👆

Current Superman is a bit of a sociopath, I don't think he'll have a problem fighting to kill.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Current Superman is a bit of a sociopath, I don't think he'll have a problem fighting to kill.

Maybe if she smiled he'd stop himself from hurting her, but she doesn't smile too much so nah, she's going down.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
[B] Clearly you are trolling now, not only were you unable to support your accusations but now just ignore what I said

The amount of asteroids intergalactically and interstellarly is UNKNOWN. Therfore, there could be many or very little! FACT IS: THERE ARE ASTEROIDS BETWEEN GALAXIES AND STARS, contrary to what you attempted to make everyone else believe

This is exactly what I said:

Concession accepted.

I don't have to prove that a lion>cat, just like a Kree>human. AoS explicitly proved that and GOTG did too with Ronan. [/B]

Your claim is that CM has superhuman reflexes because she can fly at light speed through space without hitting anything.

The conclusion does not follow from the premise as it's possible that she traversed space without needing less than 0.2 seconds to react.

You have to prove that she traveled between objects that were less than 37,000 miles apart.

Asteroids between galaxies (you have to prove that they exist) and stars has nothing to do with your claim.

Originally posted by h1a8
Your claim is that CM has superhuman reflexes because she can fly at light speed through space without hitting anything.

The conclusion does not follow from the premise as it's possible that she traversed space without needing less than 0.2 seconds to react.

You have to prove that she traveled between objects that were less than 37,000 miles apart.

Asteroids between galaxies (you have to prove that they exist) and stars has nothing to do with your claim.

I suggest you read the opponent's claim before attempting to rebuke, because otherwise you give a very bad impression mr. H1!

I have already brought evidence of the existence of asteroids in intergalactic and interstellar distances.

Again:

travelling at the speed of light inbetween stars or galaxies without proper reflexes, would be like swimming into a river with 0 visibility of what's underwater, knowing that there are crocodiles living in such river. You don't know how many crocodiles there are, or how near to you they are, but still, only a phucking IDIOT would swim in that river.

Superman won along time ago.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I suggest you read the opponent's claim before attempting to rebuke, because otherwise you give a very bad impression mr. H1!

I have already brought evidence of the existence of asteroids in intergalactic and interstellar distances.

Again:

[B]travelling at the speed of light inbetween stars or galaxies without proper reflexes, would be like swimming into a river with 0 visibility of what's underwater, knowing that there are crocodiles living in such river. You don't know how many crocodiles there are, or how near to you they are, but still, only a phucking IDIOT would swim in that river. [/B]


That's if you travel between objects that are less than 37,000 miles away. You have to prove that she traveled between such objects.

Proper reflexes to navigate space at light speed is less than human level reflexes. You haven't proven that it takes better than human reactions.
Space is extremely large. For example, if the sun was the size of 1 cm in diameter then the nearest star would be more than 160 miles away. That's a whole state away. Your river analogy of the river does not work. Space is much much larger than that.

Simple math.
Traveling at light speed you see an object 200,000 miles from you, in your path (extremely unlikely due to the size of space), then you would have 1 second to react.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's if you travel between objects that are less than 37,000 miles away. You have to prove that she traveled between such objects.

Proper reflexes to navigate space at light speed is less than human level reflexes. You haven't proven that it takes better than human reactions.
Space is extremely large. For example, if the sun was the size of 1 cm in diameter then the nearest star would be more than 160 miles away. That's a whole state away. Your river analogy of the river does not work. Space is much much larger than that.

Simple math.
Traveling at light speed you see an object 200,000 miles from you, in your path (extremely unlikely due to the size of space), then you would have 1 second to react.

Where the hell do you get your numbers from??? You fail to bring evidence forth! I don't need to prove anything, fact is that there are asteroids floating in space, therefore there are CHANCES of you hitting such objects.

IT'S CALLED PROBABILITY! I never said that the probabilites were high, I said no one would risk traversing UNKNOWN space at high speeds WITHOUT proper reflexes!

Okay it's evident you are delirating right now, you clearly ignored my post!

Inform yourself on SIZE PERCEPTION in regards to DISTANCE

Your science is messed up fellow!

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Superman won along time ago.

Delusional

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Superman won along time ago.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I kinda assumed you already had conceded when you refused to answer my one simple question...

I think I've asked you 3 times now & you still won't respond. 🙄

I already provided an example of Superman hitting a woman, you whined that that example didn't count but this one will. You refuse to acknowledge that under your own line of reasoning that Carol would not beat on someone she has no prior history with who wasn't trying to combat her, and I challenge you to provide evidence that she would.

You're a bit slow, so let me know if you need me to go in further detail on why your train of thought is so laughably irrelevant.

Wow.

Josh proving to the crowd what an overblown idiotic fatso he is. He loses against everyone else debating him - even H1 which is himself.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Where the hell do you get your numbers from??? [B] You fail to bring evidence forth! I don't need to prove anything, fact is that there are asteroids floating in space, therefore there are CHANCES of you hitting such objects.

IT'S CALLED PROBABILITY! I never said that the probabilites were high, I said no one would risk traversing UNKNOWN space at high speeds WITHOUT proper reflexes!

Okay it's evident you are delirating right now, you clearly ignored my post!

Inform yourself on SIZE PERCEPTION in regards to DISTANCE

Your science is messed up fellow! [/B]

It makes no sense that she has to have superhuman reflexes if she can travel at light speed in space. You can gain the ability to travel lights peed while keeping the same reflexes. You are making shit up now.

Also, space is large. Objects are so far away from her that she has plenty of time to react to anything that can hurt her. Light moves slow as hell in space. It takes more than 4 phucking years for light to get to the nearest star. That's like moving less than 0.004mph in the scale I gave earlier.She can travel at lights speed blindly to the nearest star with less than a 0.0000000001 chance of hitting anything that can do harm.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I already provided an example of Superman hitting a woman, you whined that that example didn't count but this one will. You refuse to acknowledge that under your own line of reasoning that Carol would not beat on someone she has no prior history with who wasn't trying to combat her, and I challenge you to provide evidence that she would.

You're a bit slow, so let me know if you need me to go in further detail on why your train of thought is so laughably irrelevant.

Y'know the main issue with this is that the OP never once states the reasoning or scenario why Supes & CM would fight each other in the 1st place.

All I have stated:

Faora is Zod's sub-commander & genetically created to be the commander of the Kryptonian military. She was created with a one track mind...to get orders from Zod & carry them out without questioning. Her gender is irrelevant.

Captain Marvel on the other hand is Marvel's version of Superman with boobs. The All-American GirlScout. She cares for humanity. She fights for justice. Her gender is relevant.

So yeah I will stand by my opinion that I cannot see Supes fighting CM nor can I imagine any possible scenario where the two would be on opposite sides.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Y'know the main issue with this is that the OP never once states the reasoning or scenario why Supes & CM would fight each other in the 1st place.

All I have stated:

Faora is Zod's sub-commander & genetically created to be the commander of the Kryptonian military. She was created with a one track mind...to get orders from Zod & carry them out without questioning. Her gender is irrelevant.

Captain Marvel on the other hand is Marvel's version of Superman with boobs. The All-American GirlScout. She cares for humanity. She fights for justice. Her gender is relevant.

So yeah I will stand by my opinion that I cannot see Supes fighting CM nor can I imagine any possible scenario where the two would be on opposite sides.

Nope