Originally posted by h1a8
It makes no sense that she has to have superhuman reflexes if she can travel at light speed in space. You can gain the ability to travel lights peed while keeping the same reflexes. You are making shit up now.Also, space is large. Objects are so far away from her that she has plenty of time to react to anything that can hurt her. Light moves slow as hell in space. It takes more than 4 phucking years for light to get to the nearest star. That's like moving less than 0.004mph in the scale I gave earlier.She can travel at lights speed blindly to the nearest star with less than a 0.0000000001 chance of hitting anything that can do harm.
YOU ARE CLEARLY CONVINIENTLY IGNORING MY POSTS
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I am growing tired of this, you are either trolling by this point or just conviniently ignoring my points.[B] I am going to address every single one of your points and bring EVIDENCE (scientific material, not my opinion), if you want to keep debating this, then I expect you to do THE SAME. Otherwise, don't even bother responding
Again, it's evident that you are tampering with the evidence.
Let me quote the real evidence!
Source: https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/asteroid.html
- It's very evident that their estimation is regarding the asteroid belt in OUR SOLAR SYSTEM. Such evidence is useless in regards to intergalactic distances, interstellar distances and other solar systems which Carol would have to travel through!
Furthermore (This I already brought):
source: http://www.spaceacademy.net.au/watch/debris/debris.htm
Clearly humanity's knowledge over interstellar and intergallactic distances is limited, and yet, they aknowledge the presence of asteroids there. They don't know how close or far appart they are from each other, but the fact remains that they are present.
Visual perception (which I already pointed out, but you conviniently ignored):
The faster you travel, the less time you have to react, furthermore, the further away you are from an object, the smaller it seems. It's COMMON KNOWLEDGE.
Astronomers use degrees to measure objects in the sky. The moon for example, has a size of 0.52 degrees (https://stardustnext.jpl.nasa.gov/education/pdfs/Deep3.pdf)
An asteroid the size of Mt. Everest would appear the size of the moon at a distance of 1,100km aprox. (assuming that these asteroid is reflecting some sort of light and is clearly visible).
For the purpose of debating, lets assume Carol miraculously manages to spot such asteroid at a distance of 10,000km (the object would have an apparent size of 0.05degrees, which is almost invisible) and manages to realize that it is a Mt. Everest asteroid and not a star millions of light years away. Carol would have 0.03s to react to such asteroid
Now I don't think I have to prove how dangerous crashing at the speed of light is! But for you to have an idea, at the speed of light crashing even an object the size of a basketball ball would be catastrophic.
Summary: There is presence of asteroids in between stars and galaxies although the amounts of these is unknown. In other words, travelling at the speed of light inbetween stars or galaxies without proper reflexes, would be like swimming into a river with 0 visibility of what's underwater, knowing that there are crocodiles living in such river. You don't know how many crocodiles there are, or how near to you they are, but still, only a phucking IDIOT would swim in that river.
Considering:
1. Size perception in terms of distance (objects turn smaller the further away you are from them)
2. You have no way to know how far an object is from you and therefore it's actual size.
3. The speed of light covers a large distance in very little time.
4. Crashing at the speed of light would extremely dangerous.
5. Visibility of object's in space would be determined by the amount of light being reflected by these (not always visible)You reach to the conclusion that CM NEEDS to have some very good reflexes in order to make light-speeding safe!
Tool used to calculate size percepction: https://sizecalc.com/#distance=10000kilometers&physical-size=10kilometers&perceived-size-units=degrees
You do realize that a. Carol was learning to use her new powers b. The missile isn't only falling due to gravity but actually propulsing itself against Carol?
And actually, I was never arguing that Carol was stronger than Superman. I believe Superman wins in terms of raw strength.
They do, it's common MCU knowledge. I'd have to bring Agents of Shield material and honestly I don't recall the exact episodes.
But Carol in her binary form is clearly wayyyyy more powerful and fast than a normal Kree. [/B]
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Where the hell do you get your numbers from??? [B] You fail to bring evidence forth! I don't need to prove anything, fact is that there are asteroids floating in space, therefore there are CHANCES of you hitting such objects.IT'S CALLED PROBABILITY!
I never said that the probabilites were high, I said no one would risk traversing UNKNOWN space at high speeds WITHOUT proper reflexes!Okay it's evident you are delirating right now, you clearly ignored my post!
Inform yourself on SIZE PERCEPTION in regards to DISTANCE
Your science is messed up fellow! [/B]
P.S: If you are going to bring probability numbers then bring evidence to support it, otherwise, your opinion is worthless.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
[B] Science>>>>>>Biased superman fanboysCarol>>>Superman. [/B]
This reminds me of retards at CBR saying Thor could fight at FTL speeds cuz space flight.
Anyways, bro you know science says someone can't move faster than the speed of light? Or lift up a building and have the building stay in tact while being lifted? Physics doesn't allow for that. So, did you wanna continue with your science angle?
Superman legit once lifted an ocean liner(not this Superman), but not from the middle...from one end, but it stayed even as he held it. Can you use science to explain this, thanks in advance!
EDIT: Do not use "well, telekinetic fields around him!" cuz this version of Supes I'm referring to didn't have that.
Originally posted by Surtur
This reminds me of retards at CBR saying Thor could fight at FTL speeds cuz space flight.Anyways, bro you know science says someone can't move faster than the speed of light? Or lift up a building and have the building stay in tact while being lifted? Physics doesn't allow for that. So, did you wanna continue with your science angle?
Superman legit once lifted an ocean liner(not this Superman), but not from the middle...from one end, but it stayed even as he held it. Can you use science to explain this, thanks in advance!
EDIT: Do not use "well, telekinetic fields around him!" cuz this version of Supes I'm referring to didn't have that.
The movie hinted at CM moving at the speed of light, period! Am not using science to argue otherwise!
I am using science to PROVE that travelling at the speed of light without proper reflexes is STUPID.
Again!
In other words, travelling at the speed of light inbetween stars or galaxies without proper reflexes, would be like swimming into a river with 0 visibility of what's underwater, knowing that there are crocodiles living in such river. You don't know how many crocodiles there are, or how near to you they are, but still, only a phucking IDIOT would swim in that river.
If Carol flies at the speed of light, she would LIKE some good reflexes.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
[B]YOU ARE CLEARLY CONVINIENTLY IGNORING MY POSTSP.S: If you are going to bring probability numbers then bring evidence to support it, otherwise, your opinion is worthless. [/B]
You are not understanding.
You do need the proper reflexes in space to react to something right in your path. But what you need and what you have are two different things.
You given the ability to travel light speed in space does not automatically give you the ability of superhuman reflexes. If an object appears before you in less than the time you can react then you will crash into it. Simple as that. CM will simply crash into such object.
But what are your chances of crashing into something while traveling BLINDLY through space at light speed for over a year? Basically 0.
In other words, You can travel through space, at light speed, in a random (blindly) direction, for a year, a million different times and not hit anything. That's how big space is.
Space is large.
If the sun is the size of a cm ball then the nearest star would be more than 160 miles away. That's bigger than lake Michigan is wide. And traveling at light speed you will effectively be traveling less than 0.004 miles per hour through the lake. That's basically about 4 inches per minute.
Originally posted by h1a8
But what are your chances of crashing into something while traveling BLINDLY through space at light speed for over a year? Basically 0.
Without evidence, that's worthless. Not even scientists know how many asteroids are intergalactically nor interstellarly, so you bringing numbers here is a fallacy.
Again, it would be like swimming in a river of crocodiles not knowing how many crocs there are, nor where there are, still NO IDIOT would take a swim for fun.
Very same reason why traversing into the Unknown Regions in SW was dangerous, because you didn't know what laid there.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Without evidence, that's worthless. Not even scientists know how many asteroids are intergalactically nor interstellarly, so you bringing numbers here is [B]a fallacy.Again, it would be like swimming in a river of crocodiles not knowing how many crocs there are, nor where there are, still NO IDIOT would take a swim for fun.
Very same reason why traversing into the Unknown Regions in SW was dangerous, because you didn't know what laid there. [/B]
Scientists do know. You don't have to believe them. You can't prove the contrary, so you have no leg to stand on.
But everything you say doesn't prove anything. Anyone can travel at light speed in space without proper reflexes to react to something that suddenly appears in front of them. Light speed travel doesn't automatically give you superhuman reflexes.
Originally posted by h1a8
Scientists do know. You don't have to believe them. You can't prove the contrary, so you have no leg to stand on.But everything you say doesn't prove anything. Anyone can travel at light speed in space without proper reflexes to react to something that suddenly appears in front of them. Light speed travel doesn't automatically give you superhuman reflexes.
Bring forth the evidence then
I've already proven you wrong. You would have 0.03s to react to a Mt. Everest size asteroid. It's called perception in regards to distance.
But again, clearly you are dodging here.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
[B]Bring forth the evidence thenI've already proven you wrong. You would have 0.03s to react to a Mt. Everest size asteroid. It's called perception in regards to distance.
But again, clearly you are dodging here. [/B]
The math is irrelevant. It could take 0.00001 second to react to an object that appears right in front of you. Still doesn't mean you have superhuman reflexes.
Originally posted by h1a8
The math is irrelevant. It could take 0.00001 second to react to an object that appears right in front of you. Still doesn't mean you have superhuman reflexes.
Proof that Josh, aka, H1 is a troll. He’s trolling himself.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The movie hinted at CM moving at the speed of light, period! Am not using science to argue otherwise!I am using science to [B]PROVE
that travelling at the speed of light without proper reflexes is STUPID.Again!
If Carol flies at the speed of light, she would LIKE some good reflexes. [/B]
*smh* Is gaining powers by absorbing the energy from an explosion smart science?
Originally posted by h1a8
The math is irrelevant. It could take 0.00001 second to react to an object that appears right in front of you. Still doesn't mean you have superhuman reflexes.
It doesn't mean you have super-reflexes, however it does mean you need super-reflexes should you want to avoid crashing.
Again, Captain Marvel seemed comfortable at flying through unknown space at the speed of light, ergo, she had super-reflexes (unless she is retarded)