Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Carol is clearly more durable and clearly faster.Superman is stronger, but does he have enough strength to put her down....I don't think so, she was crashing warships without even a scratch.
Carol's power output is clearly above though....
Am placing my bets on Carol.
Name the speed feats and by the way space travel feats don't translate into combat super speed.
Now bring on them speed feats.
Originally posted by Robtard
@joshWhere are you getting that Capt Marvel travels at light speeds?
The end scene. When Mar-Vell's ship jumps into lightspeed, Carol is right next side following it.
Also, she upgraded Fury's device so he can communicate with her galaxies away. She's got to travel pretty fast to travel galactic distances don't you think?
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The end scene. When Mar-Vell's ship jumps into lightspeed, Carol is right next side following it.Also, she upgraded Fury's device so he can communicate with her galaxies away. She's got to travel pretty fast to travel galactic distances don't you think?
I don't think it or she jumped to light speed, as (per the plot) Mar-Vell was working on developing a light speed engine which was powered by the Space Stone, but it was destroyed.
She can travel fast, but the plot point was that ships are not capable of light speeds (which is odd to me admittedly). The Kree ships seem to fold space in traveling great distances. The open up a point/portal and they pass into another spot in the galaxy.
Originally posted by Surtur
Nope it does not work that way, otherwise every Green Lantern is a FTL monster in combat speed.One more time: speed feats
Again, speed is speed, regardless of the action.
You want to limit the definition of speed, then bring hard evidence to do so. Otherwise, the definition nullifies your argument.
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think it or she jumped to light speed, as (per the plot) Mar-Vell was working on developing a light speed engine which was powered by the Space Stone, but it was destroyed.
It was the ship. That's why Talos begged Marvel to show him the ship, so they could escape the Kree. The ship at the end of the movie was as fast as light.
Also, remember that Yon Rogg stated that Marvel absorbed the engine's power.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Again, speed is speed, regardless of the action.You want to limit the definition of speed, then bring hard evidence to do so. Otherwise, the definition nullifies your statement.
When it comes to combat, reflexes are important. This is why people don't argue Green Lanterns can just speedblitz people.
Yes, speed is speed. Space is vast, stars usually far apart from each other. It's not a reflex feat.
Originally posted by ares834
Anyone with more then a double digit IQ should be capable of realizing that just because you can fly at light speed doesn't mean you have the reactions to be capable of fighting at a similar speed.
You mean pilots in the air force don't have superhuman reflexes? Whaaaaaaat?
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
It was the ship. That's why Talos begged Marvel to show him the ship, so they could escape the Kree. The ship at the end of the movie was as fast as light.Also, remember that Yon Rogg stated that Marvel absorbed the engine's power.
While it makes sense, I don't recall it being said that Mar-Vell had upgraded her Kree ship to be FTL, as she was still testing her prototype engine on Earth at the time of her death. If she had a working one on her ship, she wouldn't have been testing one on Earth, no?
She did, doesn't mean she got FTL travel. Certainly possible, but I don't think it's was explicitly stated or shown
Originally posted by Surtur
When it comes to combat, reflexes are important. This is why people don't argue Green Lanterns can just speedblitz people.Yes, speed is speed. Space is vast, stars usually far apart from each other. It's not a reflex feat.
Okay, you are talking reflexes now, which is different from speed.
Well, if Denvers travels at the speed of light she's got to have some ****ing good reflexes. Otherwise, she'd be traveling blindfolded (she wouldn't be able to process her environment, since everything would be moving too fast). So i don't doubt she has good reflexes.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay, you are talking reflexes now, which is different from speed.Well, if Denvers travels at the speed of light she's got to have some ****ing good reflexes. Otherwise, she'd be traveling blindfolded (she wouldn't be able to process her environment, since everything would be moving too fast). So i don't doubt she has good reflexes.
Traveling in a straight line in space doesn't take much in the way of reflexes.
And we were discussing combat speed, I figured the fact reflex speed mattered was a given.
Originally posted by ares834
Anyone with more then a double digit IQ should be capable of realizing that just because you can fly at light speed doesn't mean you have the reactions to be capable of fighting at a similar speed.
Truth be told I don't remember the details, but it is clear that the whole movie revolved on the Skrulls trying to obtain the lightspeed tech. And I do remember Talos telling Denvers that he needed that ship tp find a new home, so... In the end I think they got it, because if they only got any other Kree vessle, then all the movie was a sham.
Look what I found:
Also, by combining her speed with her flight capacity, she can travel at the speed of light.
https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_Marvel
I know wiki's aren't that confident, but it's something.
Originally posted by Surtur
Traveling in a straight line in space doesn't take much in the way of reflexes.And we were discussing combat speed, I figured the fact reflex speed mattered was a given.
Ofcourse it does... You are traveling at 300,000km/s! Also, space is full of asteroids and debris...At that speed, am sure you would like to dodge...
I don't have any metrics for her reflexes, but they are obviously damn good when in binary form, otherwise traveling that fast would be stupid.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Ofcourse it does... You are traveling at 300,000km/s! Also, space is full of asteroids and debris...At that speed, am sure you would like to dodge...I don't have any metrics for her reflexes, but they are obviously damn good when in binary form, otherwise traveling that fast would be stupid.
Why would she need to dodge space debris? Isn't she super dupah tough?
If she was shown zig zagging through an asteroid field you might have a point. If they were like a few feet apart from each other.