Captain Marvel vs Superman

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Also, space is full of asteroids and debris...

No it's not. Space is empty. Almost entirely empty.

Originally posted by Surtur
Why would she need to dodge space debris? Isn't she super dupah tough?

If she was shown zig zagging through an asteroid field you might have a point. If they were like a few feet apart from each other.

We don't really know if she can tank an asteroid at the speed of light...That would make her tough as phuck.

Either way, if she couldn't process the environment arround her she would be traveling blind. So her reflexes MUST be very good.

Besides, she doesn't have to travel lightspeed to outspeed Superman.

Originally posted by ares834
No it's not. Space is empty. Almost entirely empty.

Space is empty, but not entirely. And when you travel at 300,000km per second, it's even less empty.

The chance of colliding with anything, even if traveling at light speed, is so low as to be almost non-existent.

The Skrulls piloting the ship must also have FTL reflexes. 👆

Cm rapes.

Originally posted by ares834
The chance of colliding with anything, even if traveling at light speed, is so low as to be almost non-existent.

Do you have evidence of that, or just your opinion?

Because she will be travelling interstellar distances and even further, intergalactic distances...there must be a quite good amount of 'asteroid belts' out there, don't you think?

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Skrulls piloting the ship must also have FTL reflexes. 👆

........Eh....It's called navegation systems.... :/

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Do you have evidence of that, or just your opinion?

Because she will be travelling interstellar distances and even further, intergalactic distances...there must be a quite good amount of 'asteroid belts' out there, don't you think?

Yes. It's called common sense. We see light from stars and even other galaxies. If there was as much "debris" and asteroid belts as you seem to think the light would rarely reach us.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Again, speed is speed, regardless of the action.

You want to limit the definition of speed, then bring hard evidence to do so. Otherwise, the definition nullifies your argument.

No its not the same, I guess people on an airplane have 500mph reflexes as well

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You are traveling at 300,000km/s! Also, space is full of asteroids and debris....
😬

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Do you have evidence of that, or just your opinion?

Because she will be travelling interstellar distances and even further, intergalactic distances...there must be a quite good amount of 'asteroid belts' out there, don't you think?

........Eh....It's called navegation systems.... :/

😐

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
No its not the same, I guess people on an airplane have 500mph reflexes as well

Is this the same though? I don't think planes require nor have the ability to manoeuvre precisely at 500mph.

Assuming this is the shitty DCEU Superman. He wins the fight, but Carol is a better character by far.

Originally posted by ares834
Yes. It's called common sense. We see light from stars and even other galaxies. If there was as much "debris" and asteroid belts as you seem to think the light would rarely reach us.

I never said that space was full of debris, I said that there is debris and matter floating in space, which is a fact.

And in distances of 100 of thousands of kilometeres it's likely you are going to find some. Again, you are going to want to have a perception of your environment if you want to safe travel at those speeds.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
No its not the same, I guess people on an airplane have 500mph reflexes as well

Captain Marvel isn't a normal person, and traveling at the speed of light is nothing close to traveling on a plane. Your analogy falls by it's own weight.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I never said that space was full of debris, I said that there is debris and matter floating in space, which is a fact.

hmm

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Also, space is full of asteroids and debris...

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And in distances of 100 of thousands of kilometeres it's likely you are going to find some.

No. You aren't. You clearly have no clue how empty and vast space truly is.

Originally posted by ares834
hmm

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No. You aren't. You clearly have no clue how empty and vast space truly is.

I wasn't being literal.

Every day, Earth is bombarded with more than 100 tons of dust and sand-sized particles.

source: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/overview/fastfacts.html

You are wrong, space isn't entirely empty.

Sand size particles. Oh no. We're also talking about a massive object (Earth) that is also pulling in all these particles. Beyond that I have never said entirely empty, I said "almost entirely empty". Hell, even asteroid belts are almost entirely empty with asteroids typically being separated by distances over 100,000 miles....

Originally posted by ares834
hmm

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No. You aren't. You clearly have no clue how empty and vast space truly is.

Originally posted by ares834
Sand size particles. Oh no. We're also talking about a massive object (Earth) that is also pulling in all these particles. Beyond that I have never said entirely empty, I said "almost entirely empty". Hell, even asteroid belts are almost entirely empty with asteroids typically being separated by distances over 100,000 miles....

Again, you are wrong.

http://www.spaceacademy.net.au/watch/debris/debris.htm

We know little about the interstellar medium and even less about the intergalactic medium. We do know that the former is filled with large amounts of dust and gas. Looking in the night sky we can see that large areas of the milky way are blocked to our view by dust. In the southern hemisphere there is one very dark small region near the southern cross that is called the coal-sack. This is due to dust blocking the light of stars behind it. Although this dust is augmented and often accompanied by large areas of gas and plasma, we shall restrict our definition of space debris to macroscopic particles and leave discussion of atomic and molecular debris throughout the universe for another discussion.

Although we know nothing about larger bodies (eg meteoroids, asteroids and comet-type bodies) in the interstellar medium, we believe them to be present.

Note that although there is little knowledge over interstellar and intergalactic space, they aknowledge the fact of meteors and space debris being present.

Are you dumb? You literally are arguing against points that I never made. And then you are using the existence of space dust for evidence of... something? Unless you think Carol is flying around avoiding every spec of space dust (lmao) then it's utterly irrelevant to the argument.

Originally posted by ares834
Are you dumb? You literally are arguing against points that I never made. And then you are using the existence of space dust for evidence of... something? Unless you think Carol is flying around avoiding every spec of space dust (lmao) then it's utterly irrelevant to the argument.

I never said she was gonna try dodge dust, I just used that to nullify your claim of

Originally posted by ares834
No it's not. Space is empty. Almost entirely empty.
Although we know nothing about larger bodies (eg meteoroids, asteroids and comet-type bodies) in the interstellar medium, we believe them to be present.

Carol is traveling light speed, unless you are unaware of the implications of such velocity, you'd know she would like to dodge meteor or asteroid size objects. And since she is traveling through solar systems and galaxies, there are odds of her encountering one.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I never said she was gonna try dodge dust, I just used that to nullify your claim of

It doesn't though? First, we were talking in regards to asteroids and meteors that Carol would have to avoid. Secondly, even if we include dust a quick google search suggests the average density of the universe is roughly one hydrogen atom per square cm or even less. That's pretty damn empty. Especially when one considers the vast majority of those atoms will be concentrated in celestial bodies.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Carol is traveling light speed, unless you are unaware of the implications of such velocity, you'd know she would like to dodge meteor or asteroid size objects. And since she is traveling through solar systems and galaxies, there are odds of her encountering one.

Never said there wasn't. Only that those odds are basically non-existent.