Kurse vs Hela

Originally posted by Silent Master
That's not how this board works, we go by feats.

When the feat is clear, not when the feat is ambiguous.

Else, prove that strength is the only factor.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
When the feat is clear, not when the feat is ambiguous.

Else, prove that strength is the only factor.

A feat being "ambiguous" doesn't give us the right to invent powers for someone.

Nobody has to prove anything except for the person claining it was something other than what was shown on screen.

Originally posted by Silent Master
A feat being "ambiguous" doesn't give us the right to invent powers for someone.

Did I said that it was the case?

I explicitly stated that it was my OPINION on how to explain the ambiguity.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Did I said that it was the case?

I explicitly stated that it was my OPINION on how to explain the ambiguity.

You're trying to use your opinion in the debate.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're trying to use your opinion in the debate.

Debates are based on opinions. I guess what you mean is, I am using my opinion on the feat without evidence.

In which case, that's affirmative. But again, the feat is ambiguous, which means you don't really have evidence on either side.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Debates are based on opinions. I guess what you mean is, I am using my opinion on the feat without evidence.

In which case, that's affirmative. But again, the feat is ambiguous, which means you don't really have evidence on either side.

No, debates are based on feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, debates are based on feats.

Yes, but the debate itself is two opposing opinions.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yes, but the debate itself is two opposing opinions.

Opinions that have to be supported by feats for them to count.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Opinions that have to be supported by feats for them to count.

exactly

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Debates are based on opinions. I guess what you mean is, I am using my opinion on the feat without evidence.

In which case, that's affirmative. But again, the feat is ambiguous, which means you don't really have evidence on either side.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
exactly

No, we have evidence she used her strength. you have zero evidence she used Josh-magic.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, we have evidence she used her strength. you have zero evidence she used Josh-magic.

Then bring it forth!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Then bring it forth!

Easily done.

YouTube video

Originally posted by Silent Master
Easily done.

YouTube video

No. The feat shows Hela crushing Mjolnir, not that she did it with PURE strength.

And, there are no other strength feats to collaborate on that. Or do you have any?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No. The feat shows Hela crushing Mjolnir, not that she did it with PURE strength.

And, there are no other strength feats to collaborate on that. Or do you have any?

If you want to claim she used something other than what the clip shows, the burden of proof is on you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to claim she used something other than what the clip shows, the burden of proof is on you.

Except the clip doesn't show her applying pure strength, you are infering that.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Except the clip doesn't show her applying pure strength, you are infering that.

Provide a timestamp where the clip shows her using something besides strength.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Provide a timestamp where the clip shows her using something besides strength.

Then fill in for the inconsistency in Hela's strength.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Then fill in for the inconsistency in Hela's strength.

Provide a timestamp where the clip shows her using something besides strength.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Provide a timestamp where the clip shows her using something besides strength.

No! The feat is inconsistent, therefore, you need to prove that only strength was used.

Or say that the movie made a mistake, and that Hela should've never been able to destroy Mjolnir.