Originally posted by h1a8
That would mean you didnt see Shazam movie then, especially when he blitzed multiple times faster than a human can react to. Carol did nothing in battle showing that she had above human level reactions. Traveling speed is not fighting speed.
In Palpatine's voice 'HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA' Son others may placate your ignorant atupidity but you bore me...
Screen feats say different . i don;t a rats ass about your alleged science bullshit. Carol again is clearly faster.. Shazam gets an ass whomping.. oh I can show you ticket stub from Shazam..
once again in Palpatine's voice "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
Originally posted by BruceSkywalkerCarol is not faster than me combat wise. She has absolutely no super combat speed. Watch the movies for once.
In Palpatine's voice 'HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA' Son others may placate your ignorant atupidity but you bore me...Screen feats say different . i don;t a rats ass about your alleged science bullshit. Carol again is clearly faster.. Shazam gets an ass whomping.. oh I can show you ticket stub from Shazam..
once again in Palpatine's voice "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
Originally posted by h1a8
I think you are misinterpreting that scene.
How many seconds did it take her? How far away was she? It's all about time
You know that traveling speed and combat speed are two different things? It's all about time intervals to make actions, not speed of travel.
I can travel 1800mph successful without crashing (a mile in 2 seconds) as long as objects are a mile away. I have plenty of time to react to what I was approaching. But 1800mph with objects 100ft away from me isn't possible for me to react to.The combatants start roughly close to each other.
1. It takes time for Carol to accelerate in an atmosphere to a certain speed.
2. If she is close to an object then she would fly with the maximum speed that allows her to react to the object. She has human level reactions. So she will not fly beyond a speed that forces her to react faster than normal human reactions.
3. Her speed is irrelevant is she can't follow him in time or react to his motion.
How is it that you managed to make a post that long, without any substance?
Not a word of what you just said changes what happened, is true/accurate, or even matters in the slightest.
1. You're saying that flying potentially MILES away, avoiding crowded army's in the middle of a war, while observing someone snap their fingers- and reaching them in time to stop them from doing so- is NOT an example of combat speed? You're delusional.
2. CAROL HAS HUMAN LEVEL REACTIONS?? She literally reacted to the explosion of a light speed engine, after she became a LITERAL biological light speed engine. Something you don't seem to realize is that space travel, the kind she utilizes, wouldn't be POSSIBLE without being able to see where tf she's going. If she had anything less than light speed+ reaction time/cognitive perception- she wouldn't be able to TRAVEL at light speed+ without getting lost in the void of space, you dullard.
3. So you're telling me she can follow a ship jumping through space at light speed+, but she can't follow Billy Batson moving at around mach 5? Yeah, RIGHT. 👆
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
How is it that you managed to make a post that long, without any substance?Not a word of what you just said changes what happened, is true/accurate, or even matters in the slightest.
1. You're saying that flying potentially MILES away, avoiding crowded army's in the middle of a war, while observing someone snap their fingers- and reaching them in time to stop them from doing so- is NOT an example of combat speed? You're delusional.
2. CAROL HAS HUMAN LEVEL REACTIONS?? She literally reacted to the explosion of a light speed engine, after she became a LITERAL biological light speed engine. Something you don't seem to realize is that space travel, the kind she utilizes, wouldn't be POSSIBLE without being able to see where tf she's going. If she had anything less than light speed+ reaction time/cognitive perception- she wouldn't be able to TRAVEL at light speed+ without getting lost in the void of space, you dullard.
3. So you're telling me she can follow a ship jumping through space at light speed+, but she can't follow Billy Batson moving at around mach 5? Yeah, RIGHT. 👆
1. Carol was only a few hundred feet away on the ground.
The scene cuts to Thanos (she could have gotten up already and was making her way to Thanos) and multiple seconds elapse before Thanos attempts to snaps his fingers. It's not a speed feat.
2. You can travel at 100x the speed of light with only human level reactions and still be able to navigate space well. It's not about speed but time it takes to react. Space is big. It takes a long time to reach anything in space, regardless of if you are traveling faster
3. You are following this screen right now and it's moving more than thousands of miles per hour. It's all about relative velocity. It two objects are moving with similar velocity then they appear motionless to each other. No super fast reactions are needed.
4. You are going against writer's intentions and making up powers they didn't intend for her to have.
Originally posted by h1a8
2. You can travel at 100x the speed of light with only human level reactions and still be able to navigate space well. It's not about speed but time it takes to react. Space is big. It takes a long time to reach anything in space, regardless of if you are traveling faster
I'm not sure how I'm consistently surprised by how stupid people on this forum can be, but sure enough- this one segment of your shit-post is probably the dumbest thing I've disgraced my eyes by viewing all year, so far.
If you were traveling at light speed, with human level reaction speed- all the light would be motionless from your perspective(as you just pointed out), meaning you'd see absolutely nothing[either total blackness, or total white light encompassing your vision]. So... Not only is your entire reply devoid of any logic whatsoever, you blatantly contradict yourself with every other sentence.
No wonder no one here takes you seriously.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I'm not sure how I'm consistently surprised by how stupid people on this forum can be, but sure enough- this one segment of your shit-post is probably the dumbest thing I've disgraced my eyes by viewing all year, so far.If you were traveling at light speed, with human level reaction speed- all the light would be motionless from your perspective(as you just pointed out), meaning you'd see absolutely nothing[either total blackness, or total white light encompassing your vision]. So... Not only is your entire reply devoid of any logic whatsoever, you blatantly contradict yourself with every other sentence.
No wonder no one here takes you seriously.
Also, According to REAL science, faster than light speed (or even light speed itself) is Impossible. Marvel universes don't have relativity laws. In fiction, all characters can see the shit they are approaching while traveling at faster than light speeds. This is a common thing. This is all under the suspension of disbelief.
But here's the kicker. Even if shit was black for CM, then her space traveling isn't a speed and reaction feat but rather an extra sensory feat. Guess you didn't think that through did you?
So Billy is clearly much faster than Carol in combat and in terms of reaction-time and no, being able to travel interstellar distances in a straight line does not give her FTL reaction-time.
Billy by comparison regularly used his super speed, and both he and Darla (who he is empowering) have shown that they can dodge lightning bolts after being fired.
It doesn't matter though. There isn't a single strength, power, or durability feat he has in Shazam that is even close to the same ballpark as Captain Marvel's, nor is there any legitimate way to scale him to Superman, or even Wonder Woman. By feats he could legitimately break his fist by punching her in the face.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Kinda does when comparing Thanos strength (via feats and power scaling), vs Shazams.
It was a headbutt, not a punch.
Thanos didn't break his face.
But most importantly, Thanos only managed to slightly jar Thor with the same headbutt. It wasn't that powerful.
Character's don't power scale off characters highest showings, they power scale off average power levels. For example, if Hulk is a 100 tonner, on average, then Thanos is around 110-150 tons (Thanos just barely overpowered Hulk in a test of strength grapple).
Here's a strength feat for you. Shazam casually finger flicked a steel garbage can about 50ft towards a wall with such a force that the wall crushed it. Considering that this feat takes tons of force to achieve and Shazam was using a tiny fraction of his power then we cannot be sure of your assertion.