Originally posted by BrolyBlackThat type will always be around; they are far more likely online. Same goes for ****ed up guys. I've used Tinder a lot for hookups, on reflection probably on reflection not sensible behaviour, but a lot of fun.
I had a girl once that wanted a diamond bracelet on the first date. I laughed my ass off and went on my way.
Originally posted by Bashar TegAbsolutely.
it's also about where you're looking and who you attract/are attracted to.like when women are like "omg i'm so sick of dating douchebags", never understanding that she meets guys where douchebags hang out and is in many cases exclusively attracted to douchebags.
i mean douchebags are people too. the core of my point was that many people lack personal honesty about what they really want, and so end up with the wrong people; or worse yet, they end up with the right people and avoid taking a chance because they allowed their opinion structure get in the way of what they really want
Originally posted by Bashar TegNo, I agree totally.
i mean douchebags are people too. the core of my point was that many people lack personal honesty about what they really want, and so end up with the wrong people; or worse yet, they end up with the right people and avoid taking a chance because they allowed their opinions get in the way of what they really want
It also might depend on what approach or women guys are trying to get themselves involved with.
Like the studies that give the most credence to the incel, or nice guy point of view relate to the sexual selectivity of women on apps like Tindr...
Like what does that say about the women or the men? Is this a biased sample of women who would on average be looking for more of a cheap thrill? Are some of these guys putting themselves in this position by looking more for a cheap thrill then a genuine relationship?
Originally posted by Emperordmb
It depends on what you mean when you say alt-right.If you actually mean alt-right, then I'd agree with you for the most part. There are alt-right women, so essentially they'd be stuck with a much much much smaller pool of women with the vast majority of women outright rejecting them.
If you're mistakenly referring to the ideas of someone like myself, or Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, or Steven Crowder as alt-right, well, let's just say my current romantic interest shares my views and watches all three of them.
Who is the lucky guy?
my bad then. seemed you were alluding to the possibility here:
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Like what does that say about the women or the men? Is this a biased sample of women who would on average be looking for more of a cheap thrill? Are some of these guys putting themselves in this position by looking more for a cheap thrill then a genuine relationship?
Originally posted by Robtard
I'd probably take Tinder data with a grain of salt when comparing it to relationships. After all, Tinder is catered to the one night stand crowd (unless this has changed?), which likely means people are either being far pickier or far more loose with their choices compared to potential long term relationships.
The opposite is true. Tinder leads to long term relationships more often than the "offline" peers:
In a report released this week, Tinder conducted two surveys comparing its users with offline daters. (The offline daters fell into three groups: people who have never dated online, people who had dated online in the past but no longer did, and people who had never used online dating but were open to the possibility.)According to Ms. Carbino, the findings indicate that Tinder users are more likely to be looking for a committed relationship than are offline daters. She said that the surveys revealed that Tinder users were doing a better job than offline daters of signaling “investment in prospective daters” by asking them questions when originally contacting them, and that they are 5 percent more likely to say “I love you” to their partners in the first year of dating.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/style/tinder-relationship-dating-study.html
So first I shit on Tinder and now I build it back up. I guess that makes us even?
If any of you old farts want to know more about modern dating, let me know. 👆
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
^^This reeks of bro-sociology, tho
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Yes it does, that aside though it's talking about the topic as intended, whether you or I agree with the psychology, which we don't.
What do you guys mean bro-sociology? Women are hypergamous. They almost exclusively date up and across. The average woman is far more likely to believe she can shoot for higher up the ladder than the average men. You can find evidence from multiple sources that are becoming increasingly apparent (Online dating data from Tinder/PoF, data and interviews from college campuses particularly in recent years as desirable women outnumber desirable men, and in the mating behaviour of homo sapiens).
It is even more pronounced on online dating (People can choose to ignore it, but in reality, SM and Online Dating are growing extensively), because the SMV of individuals is reduced to the most of basic traits such as attractiveness, visible immediate monetary success, and social status. On SM a 6 will think she's a 9 tbh, and it's not her fault, a plethora of thirsty dudes over inflate the ego.
This doesn't make women evil any more than a man is a pig for liking a nice pair of ****/ass. We like what we like. If anything it's a GOOD thing on a personal level. As the OP shows, the bar has been so lowered, that you can drown in p*ssy if you have your shit together. On a societal level? Then it comes into question. People are marrying less, divorcing more, men AND women are both unhappier, in particular women (The rate of alcoholism among young women is growing at worrying levels), the rate of single-motherhood has SKYROCKETED to a ridiculous degree, and large number of dudes are retreating from society which is harmful on a economic and a political level (Disenfranchised men are FAR MORE likely to burn the entire system down at a chance of a better life).
Like all things, there is a balance however. Women are driven by status, men are driven by appearance and quantity. This means women are malleable in what attracts them: AKA there aren't any ugly dudes, just broke ones.
But if you're an ugly girl IRL, you're shit out of luck.
Edit - in 2017, the young adults, up to 35, only 30% were not using online dating tools.
It's in the article.
So, yes, Tinder is one cross-section of modern young adults' dating habits that matches (pun intended) in multiple ways to its biggest competitor: OKCupid.
And the racist tendencies were replicated in Tinder's userbase, too.