Originally posted by Silent MasterI dont see why it's a low end feat? Does her blades have feats of resisting very powerful human ammo?
Notice how h1, the guy that uses high-end feats for characters he likes is trying to use an obvious low-end feat for Hela? it's almost like he's a troll.
Originally posted by h1a8
The original claim is that random Asgardian swords is beyond ALL human ammo.
We know that Asgardians can be cut by Hela's blades. This means that anything equal or higher than her blades can cut them. Well her blades were destroyed by human ammo. Therefore a sword that can be destroyed by human ammo can cut them. Since their random swords have no feats other than cutting asgardians then we can't assume that they are beyond ALL human ammo.
First of all, because I know you like making stuff up, please quote the post where it was claimed random Asgardian swords are beyond all human ammo.
Originally posted by FrothByteI misquoted slightly. He said regular ammo (which still isn't proven).
First of all, because I know you like making stuff up, please quote the post where it was claimed random Asgardian swords are beyond all human ammo.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
People saying “Normal” Asgardians as if they are normal humans.Asgardians are a super race, and their weapons far more durable and advanced than Earths regular ammo.
Also all Helas feats are on Asgard, save the Mjolnir crush. So those are the only feats we have for comparison.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So what's the problem then? Even your average human tactical knife is more durable than regular ammo. Asgardian swords and knives are obviously stronger than ours.
h1 is a troll who has never seen the movie, check out around 4:25 mark, Skurge is shooting the undead Asgardians, not the spikes holding the ship in place.
The spikes broke because the spaceship had been at full burn for a decent amount of time.
Originally posted by Silent MasterYou could be right. But it appears he also could had been shooting at the spike. Other posters have stated what I did. In other words, it's inconclusive. There is no trolling going on.
h1 is a troll who has never seen the movie, check out around 4:25 mark, Skurge is shooting the undead Asgardians, not the spikes holding the ship in place.The spikes broke because the spaceship had been at full burn for a decent amount of time.
Originally posted by h1a8
He meant that they are bulletproof to regular ammo. Otherwise, why mention “ammo”?
No, that is not what he meant at all. Nowhere does he claim they are bulletproof. Maybe they are, but that's not what he meant. You are putting your own spin on his words.
In any case, this line of debate is no longer necessary since Silent just proved that Skurge never shot at Hela's spikes anyway.
Originally posted by h1a8
You could be right. But it appears he also could had been shooting at the spike. Other posters have stated what I did. In other words, it's inconclusive. There is no trolling going on.
It's only inconclusive if you haven't actually watched the movie, at no time were the guns pointed anywhere near where the spikes were damaged. Stop making things up.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, that is not what he meant at all. Nowhere does he claim they are bulletproof. Maybe they are, but that's not what he meant. You are putting your own spin on his words.In any case, this line of debate is no longer necessary since Silent just proved that Skurge never shot at Hela's spikes anyway.
Everything in the universe is more durable than ammo.
He meant taking hits from ammo.
There are a billion other things he could have said if he was literal and wanted to compare actual durabilities (steel, titanium, diamond, etc). Who the phuck says something is more durable than ammo (ammo is some of the weakest shit in the world)?
But it is still unknown how much more durable Asgardian swords are than the strongest steel swords.
Are they 2x stronger, 3x stronger,...?
Rifle bullets can penetrate multiple steel swords stacked.
Originally posted by h1a8
Everything in the universe is more durable than ammo.
He meant taking hits from ammo.There are a billion other things he could have said if he was literal and wanted to compare actual durabilities (steel, titanium, diamond, etc). Who the phuck says something is more durable than ammo (ammo is some of the weakest shit in the world)?
But it is still unknown how much more durable Asgardian swords are than the strongest steel swords.
Are they 2x stronger, 3x stronger,...?
Rifle bullets can penetrate multiple steel swords stacked.
I don't even know where you're going with this. You admit that their swords are more durable than ammo. Great. You admit that their swords are more durable than our swords, just unknown by how much. Great.
What's the point of all this? As Silent already posted, Hela's spikes were never cracked by human ammo anyway, so this discussion is pointless.
P.S. - a bullet penetrating a stationary sword is not proof that the bullet is more durable than the sword, since a sword can easily cut a bullet.
Originally posted by h1a8
Everything in the universe is more durable than ammo.
He meant taking hits from ammo.There are a billion other things he could have said if he was literal and wanted to compare actual durabilities (steel, titanium, diamond, etc). Who the phuck says something is more durable than ammo (ammo is some of the weakest shit in the world)?
But it is still unknown how much more durable Asgardian swords are than the strongest steel swords.
Are they 2x stronger, 3x stronger,...?
Rifle bullets can penetrate multiple steel swords stacked.
Not sure why you keep arguing back and forth over a simple point I made.
But watch AOS and its clear Asgardian durability is vastly greater than humans. Human Knifes cant effect even a simple Asgardian farmer, and we already know bullets do squat to Loki, who is clearly vastly below Thor and Hela in strength and durability.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Skurge May have replaced the bullets in those guns with Asgardian ones, but no proof of that, so whatever.
I have proof. Those bullets were taking out undead Asgardians. Based on everything we have seen of the Asgardians, we can conclude that their armor (and possible even their bodies) are bullet proof.
So the fact that those guns were harming undead Asgardians could only be explained in one of two ways:
1. Skurge replaced the bullets with Asgardian versions... which should be easy to do since Asgardian weaponry and tech are a lot more advanced than ours.
or
2. The undead Asgardians had become extremely brittle in their death.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not sure why you keep arguing back and forth over a simple point I made.But watch AOS and its clear Asgardian durability is vastly greater than humans. Human Knifes cant effect even a simple Asgardian farmer, and we already know bullets do squat to Loki, who is clearly vastly below Thor and Hela in strength and durability.
The farmer bent the knife from the side. Plus rifle bullets can EASILY penetrate tactical knifes.
And someone being bulletproof, while an asgardian sword able to penetrate them, doesn't mean the sword is also bulletproof (especially to rifle rounds).
Bulletproof vests are not necessary stab proof and stab vests are not bulletproof.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't even know where you're going with this. You admit that their swords are more durable than ammo. Great. You admit that their swords are more durable than our swords, just unknown by how much. Great.What's the point of all this? As Silent already posted, Hela's spikes were never cracked by human ammo anyway, so this discussion is pointless.
P.S. - a bullet penetrating a stationary sword is not proof that the bullet is more durable than the sword, since a sword can easily cut a bullet.
My point is that he meant bulletproof to regular ammo, not more durable. We are arguing what he meant. Understand?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Skurge May have replaced the bullets in those guns with Asgardian ones, but no proof of that, so whatever.
He didnt because they there is no evidence of him doing it.
Originally posted by FrothByteStuff doesn't exist in fiction if there isn't blatant evidence that it does. Movies don't always follow rules of real life. That's why we have contradictions and inconsistencies everywhere. You can't always equate one feat to any other one. With that said
I have proof. Those bullets were taking out undead Asgardians. Based on everything we have seen of the Asgardians, we can conclude that their armor (and possible even their bodies) are bullet proof.So the fact that those guns were harming undead Asgardians could only be explained in one of two ways:
1. Skurge replaced the bullets with Asgardian versions... which should be easy to do since Asgardian weaponry and tech are a lot more advanced than ours.
or
2. The undead Asgardians had become extremely brittle in their death.
All Asgardians are not necessarily bulletproof. Sid is certainly not. The writer made us believe that high caliber bullets can damage Thor.
Undead beings in fiction are notorious for their weak durability.
Originally posted by h1a8
Stuff doesn't exist in fiction if there isn't blatant evidence that it does. Movies don't always follow rules of real life. That's why we have contradictions and inconsistencies everywhere. You can't always equate one feat to any other one. With that saidAll Asgardians are not necessarily bulletproof. Sid is certainly not. The writer made us believe that high caliber bullets can damage Thor.
Undead beings in fiction are notorious for their weak durability.
Who the hell is Sid? I don't recall any Asgardian ever being damaged by human bullets. Do you?
Originally posted by h1a8
The farmer bent the knife from the side. Plus rifle bullets can EASILY penetrate tactical knifes.And someone being bulletproof, while an asgardian sword able to penetrate them, doesn't mean the sword is also bulletproof (especially to rifle rounds).
Bulletproof vests are not necessary stab proof and stab vests are not bulletproof.
My point is that he meant bulletproof to regular ammo, not more durable. We are arguing what he meant. Understand?
He didnt because they there is no evidence of him doing it.
Then why don't you simply ask him what he meant, because it certainly seems that you're completely misinterpreting it just to make it easier for you to defend.
P.S. - the asgardian farmer bent the knife along its edge AND along its flat. See below.
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