Thanos vs Hela

Started by Darth Thor11 pages

Originally posted by FrothByte
I have proof. Those bullets were taking out undead Asgardians. Based on everything we have seen of the Asgardians, we can conclude that their armor (and possible even their bodies) are bullet proof.

So the fact that those guns were harming undead Asgardians could only be explained in one of two ways:

1. Skurge replaced the bullets with Asgardian versions... which should be easy to do since Asgardian weaponry and tech are a lot more advanced than ours.

or

2. The undead Asgardians had become extremely brittle in their death.

1) I mean yeah, literally all Skurge would have to do is cover those same bullets with an Asgardian metal.

2) Yeah otherwise there is a big inconsistency to explain. But could also just be PIS.

Either way, they didnt shoot actual Asgardians down.

Originally posted by h1a8
The writer made us believe that high caliber bullets can damage Thor.

No he didnt. You always love trolling over this thoroughly debunked point.

And who was that writer anyway? Joss Whedon? He doesnt even work for Marvel anymore, so what makes any supposed implications from him Canon? Nothing. Especially when that would be completely inconsistent with his later feats and showings.

My post is below

Originally posted by h1a8
Sif is certainly not bulletproof. All Asgardians are not the same. They are made up of different races as well.

You made this up.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You made this up.

The writer had her blocking bullets.
If she was bulletproof in the writer's mind then he would have showcased it rather than have her block bullets. And Loki is certainly from a different race.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Who the hell is Sid? I don't recall any Asgardian ever being damaged by human bullets. Do you?
Sif is certainly not bulletproof. All Asgardians are not the same. They are made up of different races as well.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Then why don't you simply ask him what he meant, because it certainly seems that you're completely misinterpreting it just to make it easier for you to defend.

P.S. - the asgardian farmer bent the knife along its edge AND along its flat. See below.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CharmingPotableHapuku-size_restricted.gif

It was along the flat ONLY. What's wrong with you?
And that has nothing to do with him being bulletproof at all. (even if it was along the edge)

Your speculation about why the writer had her block bullets isn't proof that she's not bullet proof. IOW, I was right. you made it up. just like you made up that Skurge damaged Hela's spikes with bullets.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your speculation about why the writer had her block bullets isn't proof that she's not bullet proof. IOW, I was right. you made it up. just like you made up that Skurge damaged Hela's spikes with bullets.
It's called evidence, and very strong evidence too. The writer isn't trying to trick or fool us. When someone blocks bullets in fiction it is to display that the character can be harmed by bullets. If you can show one instance of the contrary (although you can't) then it would still weigh heavily in my favor.

It's called speculation and Imp has already made a ruling that speculation isn't proof.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's called speculation and Imp has already made a ruling that speculation isn't proof.
IMP stated that we are to provide on screen EVIDENCE. I provided strong evidence.

She has no on screen feats showing that she is bulletproof.

And here IMP asks for EVIDENCE.

Originally posted by Impediment

Is there evidence to show that ...

If you're a trained warrior and fully capable of blocking an attack I'm not sure why you wouldn't do so...regardless of whether or not it would harm you.

Your "evidence" is based on speculation and per Imp

Originally posted by Impediment
Screen feats are validation.

Mere speculation doesn’t hold water.

Either provide concrete, detailed proof of your claims or concede.

Therefore per Imp's ruling, you have no evidence.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your "evidence" is based on speculation and per Imp

Therefore per Imp's ruling, you have no evidence.

She blocked the bullet with her armor to protect herself. That's not speculation, but evidence of what the writer is trying to convey.

If anything, Sif being Bulletproof is speculation

Originally posted by h1a8
The writer had her blocking bullets.
If she was bulletproof in the writer's mind then he would have showcased it rather than have her block bullets. And Loki is certainly from a different race.

Sif is certainly not bulletproof. All Asgardians are not the same. They are made up of different races as well.

It was along the flat ONLY. What's wrong with you?
And that has nothing to do with him being bulletproof at all. (even if it was along the edge)

Human skin is waterproof, yet we still use umbrellas under the rain. Why?

Sif blocking bullets is not proof that she's not bulletproof. Therefore if you want to claim that Asgardians are not bulletproof, please provide proof. Besides, she tanked a shotgun blast to her hip without issues.

As for the knife, are you blind now as well as stupid? I posted the gif right there and you can clearly see the Asgardian push it forward then up.

Originally posted by Surtur
If you're a trained warrior and fully capable of blocking an attack I'm not sure why you wouldn't do so...regardless of whether or not it would harm you.
Because she is not a warrior but an actress. It's all about what the writer is trying to convey. A bulletproof character would be portrayed as such when encountering bullets

Originally posted by FrothByte
Human skin is waterproof, yet we still use umbrellas under the rain. Why?

Sif blocking bullets is not proof that she's not bulletproof. Therefore if you want to claim that Asgardians are not bulletproof, please provide proof. Besides, she tanked a shotgun blast to her hip without issues.

As for the knife, are you blind now as well as stupid? I posted the gif right there and you can clearly see the Asgardian push it forward then up.

This is a story. It is fiction and storytelling. In fiction, a bulletproof character would be portrayed as such when encountering bullets. And it is called strong evidence.

There is no proof that she is bulletproof. So why should we accept that she is? She did not take a bullet to the hip. She blocked it.

He bent it along the flat in two opposite directions as shown. You are delusional

Originally posted by FrothByte
Human skin is waterproof, yet we still use umbrellas under the rain.

Yes and we run from water guns. Thats clearly us implying to the world that our skins can be penetrated by water gun shots.

Also:

Originally posted by Darth Thor

And who was that writer anyway? Joss Whedon? He doesnt even work for Marvel anymore, so what makes any supposed implications from him Canon? Nothing. Especially when that would be completely inconsistent with his later feats and showings.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is a story. It is fiction and storytelling. In fiction, a bulletproof character would be portrayed as such when encountering bullets. And it is called strong evidence.

There is no proof that she is bulletproof. So why should we accept that she is? She did not take a bullet to the hip. She blocked it.

He bent it along the flat in two opposite directions as shown. You are delusional

Sorry but you don't get to decide what works in fiction and what doesn't. You'd have to be full of yourself to even think you could simply dictate that.

Fact remains: Humans shield themselves from rain despite being waterproof. Just because Sif blocks bullets doesn't mean she's vulnerable to them.

And she didn't block the shot to her hip. She even looked surprised. But then again I wouldn't expect you to know that when you can't even tell which direction a knife is bent with the gif right in front of your eyes.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Sorry but you don't get to decide what works in fiction and what doesn't. You'd have to be full of yourself to even think you could simply dictate that.

Fact remains: Humans shield themselves from rain despite being waterproof. Just because Sif blocks bullets doesn't mean she's vulnerable to them.

And she didn't block the shot to her hip. She even looked surprised. But then again I wouldn't expect you to know that when you can't even tell which direction a knife is bent with the gif right in front of your eyes.

Take my word for it? It's common sense.
If you don't believe that was what what writer was trying to show then either you are incredibly stupid or lying. Either case the argument is over.

Bottomline: My argument is moot since there is no proof that Sif is bulletproof.

Originally posted by h1a8
Take my word for it? It's common sense.
If you don't believe that was what what writer was trying to show then either you are incredibly stupid or lying. Either case the argument is over.

Bottomline: My argument is moot since there is no proof that Sif is bulletproof.

No it's not common sense. Seeing as you're the only one who thinks like this then it's definitely far from being common.

Loki is proven bulletproof. Thor can easily survive explosions that decimate an entire city. An Asgardian farmer can't get cut with a tactical knife. And Sif took a shotgun blast to her hip with no issues.

So if you want to claim that human ammo can hurt Sif, that's up to you to prove.

Anyway, there aren't even any guns in this thread. Not sure why you keep arguing about bullets.

Originally posted by h1a8
She blocked the bullet with her armor to protect herself. That's not speculation, but evidence of what the writer is trying to convey.

If anything, Sif being Bulletproof is speculation

Of course it's speculation, if not feel free to post a clip where it's actually stated that was her reason.

Originally posted by Impediment
Screen feats are validation.

Mere speculation doesn’t hold water.

Either provide concrete, detailed proof of your claims or concede.