Smaug vs Night King · Movie Versus Forum

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
GoT Ballista is CLEARLY bigger and shoots the bolt way faster than Erebor's. Based on that alone, it's safe to assume that GoT's ballista is way more dangerous than Erebor's.
Here are the facts:
- NK's spear one shoted a Dragon! It went right through it's hide like knife through butter.
So, again, what evidence is there that Smaug can withstand it?

False!

Fact: Dwarven ballistas are very large; much, much larger and heavier than the GoT scorpions:

Battle of Five Armies (Extended cut)

So you see, your logic is illogical. By both visual and spoken material, the GoT scorpions would not take out Smaug, it'd be like a toothpick to him

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by Robtard
False!
Fact: Dwarven ballistas are very large; much, much larger and heavier than the GoT scorpions:
Battle of Five Armies (Extended cut)
So you see, your logic is illogical. By both visual and spoken material, the GoT scorpions would not take out Smaug, it'd be like a toothpick to him

YouTube video

Does Erebor's scorpion seem more powerful than GoT's? Clearly not.

My logic is fine.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
YouTube video
Does Erebor's scorpion seem more powerful than GoT's? Clearly not.
My logic is fine.

That one looks about equal and it was also shooting a black spear and it bounced off Smaug harmlessly because he's nigh invulnerable according to lore.

Your logic is awful

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by Robtard
That one looks about equal and it was also shooting a black spear and it bounced off Smuag harmlessly.
Your logic is awful

Ohh Rob. You can't grasp the fact that Erebor's bolt can be charged with bare hands while GoT's requires levers and gears.

Whose logic is shitty here?

Robtard Senor Member

That one has a lever for cranking

ShadowFyre Senior Member

Dude. Just give it up. Everything you have said is damn near wrong. Night King isnt winning this

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by Robtard
That one has a lever for cranking

And yet it can be charged with bare hands 😂 GoT's require for you to use the pulleys in order to charge it. Also, GoT is clearly bigger 😂

GoT's ballista>>> Erebors.

You have nothing, Smaug get's impaled. But nice try, try with Ancalagon next time 😉

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And yet it can be charged with bare hands 😂 GoT's require for you to use the pulleys in order to charge it. Also, GoT is clearly bigger 😂
GoT's ballista>>> Erebors.
You have nothing, Smaug get's impaled. But nice try, try with Ancalagon next time 😉

It has a lever and fulcrum to pull the cord back, you're acting like it's a hand-held xbow is funny and shows desperation.

LoTR Dwarves have superhuman strength as well, so that factors in the possible forces needed to arm one.

A GoT scorpion likely wouldn't do shit to Smaug considering the lore behind him and he clearly could tear the NK to queer little ice cubes. Deal with it.

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by Robtard
It has a lever and fulcrum to pull the cord back, you're acting like it's a hand-held xbow is funny and shows desperation.
LoTR Dwarves have superhuman strength as well, so that factors in the possible forces needed to arm one.
A GoT scorpion likely wouldn't do shit to Smaug considering the lore behind him and he clearly could tear the NK to queer little ice cubes. Deal with it.

GoT's scorpion is bigger than Erebor's, based on that alone, logic is on my side fellow 😉

And still, Ice Spear>>>>>>Black Arrow. Deal with it

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
GoT's scorpion is bigger than Erebor's, based on that alone, logic is on my side fellow 😉
And still, Ice Spear>>>>>>Black Arrow. Deal with it

Doesn't prove it could take out Smaug.

You're ignoring all the lore and showings for Smaug and assuming something the size of a toothpick to Smaug will kill him if it hits him anywhere. Your logic is stupid, Josh.

Also, by showings, the Black Spear killed a much larger/heavier and powerful dragon than the Ice Spear did, so by screen evidence, Black Spear > Ice Spear :0

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Dude. Just give it up. Everything you have said is damn near wrong. Night King isnt winning this

Josh is one of the worst debaters to ever draw breath. Logic and reason have no place in his mind. Josh picks who he likes the most.

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by Robtard
Doesn't prove it could take out Smaug.
What it doesn't prove is that an Ice spear couldn't take out Smaug.
You're ignoring all the lore and showings for Smaug and assuming something the size of a toothpick to Smaug will kill him if it hits him anywhere. Your logic is stupid, Josh.
Also, by showings, the Black Spear killed a much larger/heavier and powerful dragon than the Ice Spear did, so by screen evidence, Black Spear > Ice Spear :0

Yeah, I know, it doesn't prove that Smaug can't survive an Ice spear, ergo, you've lost this!

The Black Spear hit the missing scale area. Drogon would obliterate Erebor just as Smaug did.

Logic eludes you.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah, I know, it doesn't prove that Smaug can't survive an Ice spear, ergo, you've lost this!
The Black Spear hit the missing scale area. Drogon would obliterate Erebor without an issue.
Logic eludes you.

Nice negative.

Thereby proving that Smaug is nigh invulnerable and you agree 👆

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah, I know, it doesn't prove that Smaug can't survive an Ice spear, ergo, you've lost this!
The Black Spear hit the missing scale area. Drogon would obliterate Erebor just as Smaug did.
Logic eludes you.

Baseless claim. You saying it kills him is not proof. NK missed more than he ever hit a dragon and he is very slow. Smaug would kill him before he even reacts. He stood there to take dragon fire and had an army at his behest and still lost to a stark wench.

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by Robtard
Nice negative.
Thereby proving that Smaug is nigh invulnerable and you agree 👆

An Ice spear can shatter steel with 0 effort. Nice joke Rob.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
An Ice spear can shatter steel with 0 effort. Nice joke Rob.

Prove he can hit him. The evidence suggests otherwise. Smaug is faster and the Nk has missed multiple times.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
An Ice spear can shatter steel with 0 effort. Nice joke Rob.

Smaug isn't made of steel, Josh. Come on, if you can't even get this bit right. Did you watch the films?

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by Robtard
Smaug isn't made of steel, Josh. Come on, if you can't even get this bit right. Did you watch the films?

Ice spear > Black arrow. C'mon Robbie boy.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Ice spear > Black arrow. C'mon Robbie boy.

Prove it. All you do is repeat your baseless opinion without the evidence to back it up.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Ice spear > Black arrow. C'mon Robbie boy.

I said that if the NK is able to hit Smaug in his vulnerable spot or even eyes, he'd win, but that's a very long shot while Smaug could just casually stomp on the NK to win.