Originally posted by Surtur
Except no the one that is first *doesn't* always win lol. It is asinine to state this as if it is an absolute.
Sure thing, buddy. IIRC it's like that in *only* 80% of the situations. In other 20% it's often that the aggressor:
- misses,
- gets distracted,
- is just insanely slow,
- is in a situation more complicated than 1v1.
But thing is, this 80% makes it basically suicidal to try to respond with your own gun, when someone already made the first move against you. Nobody in their right mind would really do that.
Gun sure increases your safety, lol, I never said otherwise. I own a gun myself (in a country where nearly nobody has them, though), and it makes you 90% safe against all kinds of inferior weaponry. And while you can't really defend yourself with a gun when you're aimed at (or at least shouldn't - it's 5x times more probable it will get yourself killed faster), you can defend others.
All I'm saying is, ironically, having a gun is no viable defense vs. other gun wielders 80% of the time. Having a gun as self-defense tool is something I do. Having a gun vs. other guns is useless.
Originally posted by gold slorg
Sure thing, buddy. IIRC it's like that in *only* 80% of the situations. In other 20% it's often that the aggressor:
- misses,
- gets distracted,
- is just insanely slow,
- is in a situation more complicated than 1v1.But thing is, this 80% makes it basically suicidal to try to respond with your own gun, when someone already made the first move against you. Nobody in their right mind would really do that.
Gun sure increases your safety, lol, I never said otherwise. I own a gun myself (in a country where nearly nobody has them, though), and it makes you 90% safe against all kinds of inferior weaponry. And while you can't really defend yourself with a gun when you're aimed at (or at least shouldn't - it's 5x times more probable it will get yourself killed faster), you can defend others.
All I'm saying is, ironically, having a gun is no viable defense vs. other gun wielders 80% of the time. Having a gun as self-defense tool is something I do. Having a gun vs. other guns is useless.
Good, 20% is better than 0%. Especially in a city where murderous thugs routinely miss their targets. Nice 👆
Originally posted by gold slorg
Sure thing, buddy. IIRC it's like that in *only* 80% of the situations. In other 20% it's often that the aggressor:
- misses,
- gets distracted,
- is just insanely slow,
- is in a situation more complicated than 1v1.But thing is, this 80% makes it basically suicidal to try to respond with your own gun, when someone already made the first move against you. Nobody in their right mind would really do that.
Gun sure increases your safety, lol, I never said otherwise. I own a gun myself (in a country where nearly nobody has them, though), and it makes you 90% safe against all kinds of inferior weaponry. And while you can't really defend yourself with a gun when you're aimed at (or at least shouldn't - it's 5x times more probable it will get yourself killed faster), you can defend others.
All I'm saying is, ironically, having a gun is no viable defense vs. other gun wielders 80% of the time. Having a gun as self-defense tool is something I do. Having a gun vs. other guns is useless.
Cite your sources.
Originally posted by Surtur
Good, 20% is better than 0%. Especially in a city where murderous thugs routinely miss their targets. Nice 👆
Repeat: if you fear getting hit by stray bullets, pulling out a gun and shooting back thereby joining in on the gang war instead of running will only increase your chances of being shot, big hero.
This is more of a PSA, since you’re not really getting a gun
Originally posted by Robtard
Repeat: if you fear getting hit by stray bullets, pulling out a gun and shooting back thereby joining in on the gang war instead of running will only increase your chances of being shot, big hero.This is more of a PSA, since you’re not really getting a gun
Yo dawg get to steppin, get yOself a few wonder hoodies ("bulletproof" hoodies) and get to gunslinging. I'm sure that it's already being taken advantage of by some ppl.
(Yes, there is an actual bulletproof hoodie called wonder hoodie.)
Originally posted by gold slorg
If anybody really thinks a gun makes you safe in a country filled with guns, they're delusional lol.Pepper spray doesn't make you safe against other pepper spray wielders, but it makes you safe against knife (range) and melee assault. Same with having a knife when someone assaults you with blunt objects.
What makes you safe is having the superior shit. Gun is an instawin in countries like Poland, since like 0,003% of people have guns, so owning one makes me insta-feared, but if you are assaulted with a gun and the psycho is the first to aim (which is, like, uhm, how assaults go), you are dead, that's it.
Originally posted by SquallX
Here’s some fun facts, England have a ban on guns, but their stabbing have shot up.This clearly shows, banning something doesn’t stop criminals from acquiring other means of harming the innocents.
Query: Would you rather face an assailant who is armed with a gun or a knife?
Originally posted by Robtard
Query: Would you rather face an assailant who is armed with a gun or a knife?
Result: Scotland showed an increase in murders and violent crime not just in raw numbers but per capita, as well.
From implements other than guns.
Scotland also saw an increase in deaths and assaults from "not guns" when stricter gun laws went into place. The violence shifted from guns to other tools.
Because violence and homicide are independent variables to gun-laws and gun restrictions.
This was actually such a big deal (the homicide issues) that Glasgow had to undertake a massive anti-violence program. And it had nothing to do with guns. Because guns weren't killing people. Humans will be humans.
Guns do not magically increase homicides.
So the answer to you question: 21 foot rule. If the stabber is within 21 feet, unless you're an elite gun fighter who has trained for this scenario, you can hope for, at best, to get a few shots off AFTER you've been lethally wounded from the knife fighter.
Greater than 21 feet and you're great with guns? You have a very good chance of winning.
Watch this video of this elite knife fighter vs. an elite gun fighter. This is real life gun kata...it's super awesome. Mostly because the gun fighter is Italian and sounds just like my great grand parents. 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
Answer: I'd rather face someone attacking me with a knife than with a gun.
Why would you want to ensure you die more easily by the knife-wielder?
Your conclusion should be, "I'd rather face a gun wielder if we are within 21 feet because my chances of survival are much higher." Unless you have a suicide wish.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Why would you want to ensure you die more easily by the knife-wielder?Your conclusion should be, "I'd rather face a gun wielder if we are within 21 feet because my chances of survival are much higher." Unless you have a suicide wish.
Because in reality I likely couldn't pick the scenario specifics where I'd be getting attacked and generally speaking a gun is more dangerous than a knife.