pre-ret Beyonder vs. Yellow aliens

Originally posted by Mr Master
1) So has She-Hulk. She broke in Marvel headquarters and phuked everyone up.

2) So did She-Hulk. She was intimidating Byrne the entire run.

3) So did She-Hulk. Only she was completely controlling the writer and artist and editor.

4) So did She-Hulk, half the series of 50 issues she was directing Byrne.

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So I see Lobo never killed his writer and artist in your list.

Therefore, I'm still waiting on what puts her to shame?

Because according to your list, it's She-Hulk putting Lobo to shame.👆

he also forced one of the writers to give him increased powers and no weaknesses for an entire arc just for the luls.

he intentionally didnt kill carlin because he knew that killing him would result in his series getting canceled.

... She-Hulk killed Animal Man Grant Morrison's equal in Marvel.

And that RW writer avatars got nothing on classic Beyonder:

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In the Beyonder's case, he was the Supreme power ...

... ridiculous as it may be Jim Shooter stated Beyonder discovered him along with Marvel:

"Beyonder's discovery of our Universe"

"We introduced the Beyonder
and established
that he was studying these beings - us - he had discovered"

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This is probably why ol' Jimmy had Stan Lee bowing to the Beyonder:

(left bottom corner ... top of his index finger ... Beyonder's right hand)

(top right corner)

😂

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If TOAA was a character in play at the time,
then TOAA was < Beyonder according to Shooter.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Interesting, and yet, SWI and II and the best selling Marvel series of all time.

Originally posted by Mr Master
... She-Hulk killed Animal Man Grant Morrison's equal in Marvel.

And that RW writer avatars got nothing on classic Beyonder:

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In the Beyonder's case, he was the Supreme power ...

... ridiculous as it may be [b]Jim Shooter stated Beyonder discovered him along with Marvel:

"Beyonder's discovery of our Universe"

"We introduced the Beyonder
and established
that he was studying these beings - us - he had discovered"

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This is probably why ol' Jimmy had Stan Lee bowing to the Beyonder:

(left bottom corner ... top of his index finger ... Beyonder's right hand)

(top right corner)

😂

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If TOAA was a character in play at the time,
then TOAA was < Beyonder according to Shooter. [/B]

i like how the face of some random old dude bowing to beyonder means beyonder is above stan lee and all marvel staff. thats a good one.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

he intentionally didnt kill carlin

because he knew that killing him would result in his series getting canceled.

And .. She-Hulk DID kill Byrne.

btw, I almost forgot another Marvel 4th wall GOD, Thermos of Earth-9047 ...

... killed the Editor in chief (Tom DeFalco) on panel, lol.

That's She-Hulk worthy, perhaps greater. 😂

cant post scans atm, but last dozen or so issues of lobos series is when he really started going wild with the 4th wall stuff.

deadpools also done the same type of stuff. messed with the panels, killed his writers. all that. shehulks goofy 4th wall stuff isnt unique to her. not even a little.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
beyonder is one of the most boring, shit characters ever created. he lacks depth. he lack substance. he lacks anything that makes a character enjoyable on any level.

the only thing he had going for him was power.

Secret Wars 1-2 was the best selling comics in Marvel history.

I would never in my right mind buy a lobo comic or any of those others.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

were....were you waiting for the next page just to post this irrevalent spam?

so, how you figure me posting 4th wall flirtations in Beyonder's case to be spam?

isn't spam you telling us Lobo put She-Hulk to shame, and yet,
you haven't produced a single incident where this is so?

Still waiting on those scanned claims you made. 😬

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

i like how the face of some random old dude bowing to beyonder

means beyonder is above stan lee and all marvel staff.

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The First scan: represents all people of the world, (that image is clearly his)

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The Second scan represents the most powerful men/women of the world,
which is the heroes/villains and 4 non-powered humans
(president Reagan, Frank the biggest drug dealer,
don't know the old head beneath Ultron, and evidently Stan Lee again)

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So, considering that his visage was included in both pages,
I find it highly unlikely it was a fortuitous act on the artist's part.

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What about Jim Shooter? (creator of SWI and II and Editor in Chief of Marvel)

Was that also some random dude being interviewed who said Beyonder discovered him with Marvel?

And Marvel was a drop of water next to Beyonder the ocean.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I see. Spam? We're dealing with 4th wall affiliated cats, (the Aliens)

so, how you figure me posting 4th wall flirtations in Beyonder's case to be spam?

isn't spam you telling us Lobo put She-Hulk to shame, and yet,
you haven't produced a single incident where this is so?

Still waiting on those scanned claims you made. 😬

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yet, coincidental how the only face that's drawn Twice is Stan Lee's.

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The First scan: represents all people of the world, (that image is clearly his)

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The Second scan represents the most powerful men/women of the world,
which is the heroes/villains [b]and 4 non-powered humans
(president Reagan, Frank the biggest drug dealer,
don't know the old head beneath Ultron, and evidently Stan Lee again)

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So, considering that his visage was included in both pages,
I find it highly unlikely it was a fortuitous act on the artist's part.

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What about Jim Shooter? (creator of SWI and II and Editor in Chief of Marvel)

Was that also some random dude being interviewed who said Beyonder discovered him with Marvel?

And Marvel was a drop of water next to Beyonder the ocean. [/B]

i saw a cloud in the shape of a dragon today. that doesnt mean it was really a dragon lol.
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so what are you arguing exactly? that beyonder is real and predates the writer who created him? come on. 🙄

i know you fanboy over beyonder but hes just not intended to be metafictional in the same way the others are. that doesnt lessen his power though so theres no reason to start trying to dig for stuff that just isnt there.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

i told you the general issues they came from. youre welcome to check them out if you want. anyone whos read those books knows i aint lying.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

you see stan lee because thats who you want to see. thats who you want it to be.

i saw a cloud in the shape of a dragon today. that doesnt mean it was really a dragon lol.

Unlike yourself, who's throwing claims around without proof, I'm the opposite.

So, let's see what's your next poppycock spin
when I post the Marvel Masterworks edition issue
where Shooter tells us it's Stan Lee and Reagan.

Will we be seeing images in puffy clouds of you deepthroating your own foot? I wonder. hm

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

so what are you arguing exactly?

that beyonder is real and predates the writer who created him? come on.

I said Beyonder is above RW writer avatars.

Please tell me I don't have to distinguish the difference for ya.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

i know you fanboy over beyonder

but hes just not intended to be metafictional in the same way the others are.

Which equates to trolling.

If you didn't think Beyonder => metafiction bullshit ... why the thread?

Troll on!

Originally posted by Mr Master
So, Lobo never did anything that puts She-Hulk to shame. Got it.

Gibberish.

Unlike yourself, who's throwing claims around without proof, I'm the opposite.

So, let's see what's your next poppycock spin
[b]when I post the Marvel Masterworks edition issue
where Shooter tells us it's Stan Lee and Reagan.

Will we be seeing images in puffy clouds of you deepthroating your own foot? I wonder. hm

That's your limited perceptions at work. I said no such thing.

I said Beyonder is above RW writer avatars.

Please tell me I don't have to distinguish the difference for ya.

Aha! ... So now you're fumbling your purpose for us and admitting you made a spite thread.

Which equates to trolling.

If you didn't think Beyonder => metafiction bullshit ... why the thread?

Troll on! [/B]

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

if shehulk did all that stuff as well then her and lobo would be equal in 4th wall stupidity i guess.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

1) if you have something that says the old dudes face is supposed to be stan lee or whatever then post it (you dont need to wait for a new page this time lol).

2)stans appeared in a bunch of marvel books over the years and more often then not he hasnt been in the guise of an omnipotent being at all. so it honestly wouldnt make much of a difference either way.

But I am looking forward to the cloudy images that will manifest for you.

2) lol, so now that you know what's coming (making u eat your words)
Stan being humilated isn't a big deal. Before I was day dreaming images in clouds lmfao!

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX

you must have a very limited view of what a writer avatar is.

certainly beyonder couldnt be above the rw writer avatar shown in animal man, because that is the being who

literally makes the issue everything takes place in.

you cannot be more powerful then that. shooters halfassed version of metafiction isnt at all equal to morrisons.

tell that to She-Hulk, who killed her RW Writer & Artist's avatar,
and Thermos, who killed the RW Editor in Chief's avatar,
and Sise-neg Genesis, who created from nothingness his RW Writer and Artist's avatars.

That said, awaiting the next excuse.

Beyonder wouldn't have any real control of YA's.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah. She-Hulk killed her writer and artist. She's above Lobo in 4th wall stupidity.

1) I will. And I'll post it when I wish to, not when you say.

But I am looking forward to the cloudy images that will manifest for you.

2) lol, so now that you know what's coming (making u eat your words)
Stan being humilated isn't a big deal. Before I was day dreaming images in clouds lmfao!

Googoogaga ...

tell that to She-Hulk, who killed her RW Writer & Artist's avatar,
and Thermos, who killed the RW Editor in Chief's avatar,
and Sise-neg Genesis, who created from nothingness his RW Writer and Artist's avatars.

That said, awaiting the next excuse.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Beyonder wouldn't have any real control of YA's.

i didnt realize this when i made this thread but i do now. i also underestimated how ridiculous the beyonder wank is here 😕

Okay, this discussion is getting toxic, and actually kind of ridiculous given that goofy fourth wall hijinks in other books has nothing to do with Trano & Zaarn.

If y'all want to have a civilized discussion about metafiction and whatnot in a separate thread, I'd be open to that. This thread, however, seems to have run its course.

Closing.