Can Superman replicate Helas Mjolnir feat?

Started by h1a86 pages

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I only use Diamond because it's one of the Earth's strongest materials. Uru is definitely stronger than anything Earth has to offer.

Well you're right, but in this case we are talking about thousands of kelvins in difference between diamonds and Uru.

And change in states of matter is related to how strong the bond structures are.

It shatters easier than other materials though. It's very hard to scratch though.

Anyway there are materials with extremely high melting points but are very weak to breakage. For example, salt is such a material. So melting point does not always correlate to strength.

And I stated if something is shown to melt something doesn't mean that a lower temperature can not. I gave a plausible reason why a neutron star is used as a forge.

Originally posted by h1a8
It shatters easier than other materials though. It's very hard to scratch though.

Anyway there are materials with extremely high melting points but are very weak to breakage. For example, salt is such a material. So melting point does not always correlate to strength.

And I stated if something is shown to melt something doesn't mean that a lower temperature can not. I gave a plausible reason why a neutron star is used as a forge.

Yes, I do agree, Uru being melted by a neutron star doesn't really mean that it can't be melted with less heat.

But, human's can make sinthetic diamonds. If melting/working Uru was as easy, then Asgardians would have no need to travel thousands of LYs away to a Neutron Star.

Well, again, I used Diamond's crushing resistance, just because I think Uru would be greater.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yes, I do agree, Uru being melted by a neutron star doesn't really mean that it can't be melted with less heat.

But, human's can make sinthetic diamonds. If melting/working Uru was as easy, then Asgardians would have no need to travel thousands of LYs away to a Neutron Star.

Well, again, I used Diamond's crushing resistance, just because I think Uru would be greater.

Synthetic diamonds cost more than natural diamonds. Why? Because it cost a shit ton to make them. The energy required is tremendous. If one can harness a small star (size of a moon) then wouldn't that be cost effective?

And it only takes a matter of moments to travel light years away when you have the technology to. It's not like driving from New York to LA. So it's no big deal anyway.

I posted videos of hydraulic press shattering diamonds. And stated that ordinary hammers can shatter them. So comparing Mjolnir to a diamond Mjolnir is faulty.

You should compare Mjolnir to another metal. I believe it is reasonable to suggest that Mjolnir is at least a couple times stronger than our strongest metal (without using feats). So we should start there if feats aren't available.

not sure why diamonds are being talked about as they have absolutely nothing to do with anything.. as for the thread.. Kal HAS no feats from MOS or JL to suggest he can crush Mjolnir

Originally posted by h1a8
Synthetic diamonds cost more than natural diamonds. Why? Because it cost a shit ton to make them. The energy required is tremendous. If one can harness a small star (size of a moon) then wouldn't that be cost effective?

And it only takes a matter of moments to travel light years away when you have the technology to. It's not like driving from New York to LA. So it's no big deal anyway.

I posted videos of hydraulic press shattering diamonds. And stated that ordinary hammers can shatter them. So comparing Mjolnir to a diamond Mjolnir is faulty.

You should compare Mjolnir to another metal. I believe it is reasonable to suggest that Mjolnir is at least a couple times stronger than our strongest metal (without using feats). So we should start there if feats aren't available.

Depending on the size, colour and clarity; a lab-grown diamond can be up to 20-40%

I am using Diamond to compare Compressive Strength only. Other characteristics am elluding.

I wouldn't use another metal. As Uru clearly outmatches by far Earth's strongest metals.

For instance, most metals melt at arround 1000-3000 Kelvin. Uru requiring Star level heat is just absurd.

Kal crushes it with ease

Not even close

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Kal crushes it with ease

Contemptuous ease

It's a magical hammer. If JL Superman has the same weakness against magic then he probably breaks his fingers trying to crush it.

What are JL Superman's best crushing strength feats?

Originally posted by FrothByte
It's a magical hammer. If JL Superman has the same weakness against magic then he probably breaks his fingers trying to crush it.

Thus far he has shown no magic weakness.

Originally posted by Surtur
Thus far he has shown no magic weakness.

I know. Was just throwing the idea out there.

I will say his magic weakness in comics when he has it doesn't always work like how you described. Usually it is that he has no more resistance to magic than anyone else, so I don't think he'd injure himself trying to crush the hammer.

I'm trying to think of Supermans best strength feats....and drawing a blank.

The man of steel city destruction fight is impressive but doesn't suggest he could break Mjolnir.

Nothing of particular excellence in BvS.

Beating up Steppenwolf in JLA. Also being indisputably the strongest on the league.

Still nothing to me that would suggest he could break Mjolnir by squeezing it.

Then by that same way, I cant think of anything Mjolnir has resisted to suggest it's that hard fo break.

Therefore, I don't actually think theres an answer to this question.

Originally posted by Robtard
Contemptuous ease

👆

Lol Mjolnir has been the creator and center of multiple city levelling attacks and destruction and been completely unscathed. Its pretty obvious how tough it is to certain things.

Superman has never released any amount of energy doing anything on that level. At least not on a sheer energy output level

All Superman would have to do is fly into the ground at speed to produce the same result. We all know you hate Superman👆

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
All Superman would have to do is fly into the ground at speed to produce the same result. We all know you hate Superman👆

Post clips of him doing so.

I don’t need to. It’s common sense him hitting the ground at millions of miles per hour would wreck anything

Not a chance.