Match The Feat

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But you don't go to such great length to low-ball it,do you?

You don't say how Glads' planet was hollow, or ask for it's specific size, or composition, or whatever.

Text says he punched a dead rock, world cried out as they died, and you accept that Glads did what the text said he did. When his son says he saw his father do what he did, even though we don't even see it, you accept it.

Here? You're nitpicking everything under the sun to try and down play it.

Why?

I mean, just a few weeks ago:

NOBODY even brought up space cheese until you did lmao.

Everything you've said is the reason I dont use it. Even after the showing, I still said people like Superman, Hulk, etc... are just as strong. I didnt use that to define how powerful Gladiator is.

Also, 😂 , you know good and well why I mentioned all of those fts for Gladiator. I did that in spite of your nonsense.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Who is discussing how he gets his power back? The point is that he gets it back, thus it is not a feat that he performs using only a fraction of his strength.

Worldbreaker Hulk is about to destroy Earth by merely walking after being depowered by Sentry beating on him. No one has argued that Banner is about to break the world

Originally posted by carver9
Everything you've said is the reason I dont use it. Even after the showing, I still said people like Superman, Hulk, etc... are just as strong. I didnt use that to define how powerful Gladiator is.

Also, 😂 , you know good and well why I mentioned all of those fts for Gladiator. I did that in spite of your nonsense.

Please quote a SINGLE instance of you low-ballling and questioning Hulk or Gladiator.

A single time. Like what you are doing now.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What? Are you arguing Superman has hulk like dynamic strength?

Why would you think that anyone said that? Who disputes that Superman can reach down into reserves to compensate for power loss? That's not really Hulk level dynamic.

Blue Marvel has show dynamic strength.

this thread.... 😂

what is really even being argued here? he generated enough force (which would require he achieved a certain level of acceleration when he left) to break a planet of unknown size. did the punch...destabilize the planet first? how far did he jump? to generate that much force he must have been travelling at HUGE speeds. that alone would rule out almost anyone duplicating the feat. was he using power while in the air to accelerate?

such an ambiguous and specific feat. i doubt anyone on that list can generate the force to duplicate it because of the acceleration needed, but it seems like this is a feat of willpower as much as strength, and people may contend strength, but no one on that list will match him in willpower AND strength.

think about sm1M's jumping feat to the moon. it had ZERO noticeable affect on anything in the immediate surrounding. he didn't even crack the great wall of china, let alone the planet. lol there was an impact when he landed, but nothing when he jumped. but somehow supes jumped and broke a planet. so weakened superman>>>>>weakened sm1M?

to say the feat is hard to gauge and compare is being grossly generous.

Originally posted by leonidas
this thread.... 😂

what is really even being argued here? he generated enough force (which would require he achieved a certain level of acceleration when he left) to break a planet of unknown size. did the punch...destabilize the planet first? how far did he jump? to generate that much force he must have been travelling at HUGE speeds. that alone would rule out almost anyone duplicating the feat. was he using power while in the air to accelerate?

such an ambiguous and specific feat. i doubt anyone on that list can generate the force to duplicate it because of the acceleration needed, but it seems like this is a feat of willpower as much as strength, and people may contend strength, but no one on that list will match him in willpower AND strength.

think about sm1M's jumping feat to the moon. it had ZERO noticeable affect on anything in the immediate surrounding. he didn't even crack the great wall of china, let alone the planet. lol there was an impact when he landed, but nothing when he jumped. but somehow supes jumped and broke a planet. so weakened superman>>>>>weakened sm1M?

to say the feat is hard to gauge and compare is being grossly generous.

'Hulk's pants don't even get destroyed; how can we truly compare the energy blasts he gets hit with?'

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
'Hulk's pants don't even get destroyed; how can we truly compare the energy blasts he gets hit with?'

Many pants are as durable, but do they don't have the mental fortitude behind them to be unscathed? I don't think so.

Superman is weakened by World Forger who is one of supreme being in DC multiverse.
And Depowerd Superman still destroyed a planet only with his jump.
It is all. What questions can we have?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Why would you think that anyone said that? Who disputes that Superman can reach down into reserves to compensate for power loss? That's not really Hulk level dynamic.

Blue Marvel has show dynamic strength.

Superman was stumbling about like a blind drunk in the preceding panels.

He's no Thor; he doesn't have super dense, super heavy muscles. He's 6ft4, about...250lbs?

And he couldn't even hold his head up steady.

If a normal Superman is at 100%, and 0% is a baseline human....Superman was at -5%, lol. Because even a normal 250lb muscle human isn't staggering about like that.

BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE.

That means even at 100%, Supes ain't breaking shiet.

He MUST have been at 150%, maybe even 200% when he did that, right? In effect, sundipped Superman levels.

Going from -5% to 200%, WITHOUT any external amps...jeez. You're quite the Superfan 😂

Imagine if I went into a thread, and argued that a dying Superman could sunamp himself just through his mind....

'And just before WW delivers the killing blow, Superman boosts himself up and OHKOs her'.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Please quote a SINGLE instance of you low-ballling and questioning Hulk or Gladiator.

A single time. Like what you are doing now.

You're asking for the impossible when KMC is built around Hulk fts being on the defensive vs being acknowledged. Same doesnt apply here.

Originally posted by carver9
You're asking for the impossible when KMC is built around Hulk fts being on the defensive vs being acknowledged. Same doesnt apply here.

Lol. So you admit its impossible to show you ever questioning a Hulk feat. Thanks.

Now, how about Gladiator?

Originally posted by leonidas
think about sm1M's jumping feat to the moon. it had ZERO noticeable affect on anything in the immediate surrounding. he didn't even crack the great wall of china, let alone the planet. lol there was an impact when he landed, but nothing when he jumped. but somehow supes jumped and broke a planet. so weakened superman>>>>>weakened sm1M?

to say the feat is hard to gauge and compare is being grossly generous.

VS

But somehow, Year 1 Human Torch >>>>>>> WBH?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Why would you think that anyone said that? Who disputes that Superman can reach down into reserves to compensate for power loss? That's not really Hulk level dynamic.

Blue Marvel has show dynamic strength.

He’s not reaching into his reserve because he’s almost depleted and almost dead. He was making less and less progress on every previous attempt.

The “up, up and away” means that he’s Superman being Superman and nothing is too big for him to overcome. That’s dynamic strength right there.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. So you admit its impossible to show you ever questioning a Hulk feat. Thanks.

Now, how about Gladiator?

Not what I said. I said it's impossible to show you a quote like that because Hulk is more on the defensive on KMC vs being acknowledged for his achievements. Get it???

Your arguments aren't even consistent anyways. You just agreed with someone in this same thread about Superman ft being impossible to do under real life situations. Even referenced it as looking at it from a comic book style of debating vs real life equation. Then you discredit Cho Hulk ft of generating enough Force equal to that of the big bang because the moon wasnt destroyed.

😕

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Too true.

However, for the premises of this thread, it SHOULD be somewhat comparable, as we're using comic characters who are equally 'cool', who also violate RL logic through comic physics.

Here.

Originally posted by leonidas
think about sm1M's jumping feat to the moon. it had ZERO noticeable affect on anything in the immediate surrounding. he didn't even crack the great wall of china, let alone the planet. lol there was an impact when he landed, but nothing when he jumped. but somehow supes jumped and broke a planet. so weakened superman>>>>>weakened sm1M?

supermans feat should definitely be>s1m's.

Originally posted by carver9
Not what I said. I said it's impossible to show you a quote like that because Hulk is more on the defensive on KMC vs being acknowledged for his achievements. Get it???

You're telling me in the 9 or so years you've been on KMC, poor Hulk has been on the defensive?? In the days of psycho Gundam etc, Hulk has ALWAYS had to be on the defensive??

And why is Gladiator being ignored??

Your arguments aren't even consistent anyways. You just agreed with someone in this same thread about Superman ft being impossible to do under real life situations. Even referenced it as looking at it from a comic book style of debating vs real life equation. Then you discredit Cho Hulk ft of generating enough Force equal to that of the big bang because the moon was destroyed.

😕

Erm, one: you're just trying to deflect and and TWO:. please re read my post. I actually said even though it's comic fiction there are still internal rules we can use: Can Batman break the planet? Venom? Colossus? Etc.

Are you actually retarded?

Originally posted by carver9
Here.

Do you not understand what I'm saying there? Are you stupid?

I'm saying we can still compare Surfer et al to Superman, even though they're using comic physics.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

You're telling me in the 9 or so years you've been on KMC, poor Hulk has been on the defensive?? In the days of psycho Gundam etc, Hulk has ALWAYS had to be on the defensive??

And why is Gladiator being ignored??

Erm, one: you're just trying to deflect and and TWO:. please re read my post. I actually said even though it's comic fiction there are still internal rules we can use: Can Batman break the planet? Venom? Colossus? Etc.

Are you actually retarded? [/B]

Lol... you agreed with him "in that post"... dont try to change stance. Anyways, you repped this ft since its existence and the capabilities of it is near impossible to do on a computer that your average Joe uses.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11128/111284304/6189116-sg%201%20%28supergirl%20inputs%20a%20few%20quintillion%20lines%20of%20code%20in%20the%20time%20cat%20blinks%2C%20supergirl%20%282016%29%20%235%29.jpg

You didnt argue against it though. You accepted the showing.

Why are you asking me that crazy question? It doesnt apply here. I cant remember everything I've said on KMC. I have almost the second highest posting count on KMC, 80 plus thousand posts. Do you honestly believe I can remember every single post I've done. I do remember back in the day where I use to give Juggernaut, hell, even Wolverine the edge over Hulk. How old the posts are, you probably wont accept it. 🙂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do you not understand what I'm saying there? Are you stupid?

I'm saying we can still compare Surfer et al to Superman, even though they're using comic physics.....

If the characters doesnt have comparable fts, then you cant compare it. It's like me asking you to show me Superman evacuating a city like Flash did in no time before a nuke went off.