Mr Mxyzptlk vs World Forger

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Mr Mxyzptlk vs World Forger

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Mxy.

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Something in the story explicitly shows that Mxy is above the mainstream Multiverses [dark, main and anti matter].

I will write that just to make Galan curious, but he saw it, too

'course he is. Mxy and the 5th dimension transcend all of that. 👆

no doubt. all 3 are just 3d universes. do we credit wf with having created the 5th and higher dimensions though?

Originally posted by Galan007
'course he is. Mxy and the 5th dimension transcend all of that. 👆
I still don't understand:
a). His relationship with World Forger [how...do they know each other? and what did the WF mean when he said he was 'assigned' to Superman - like Batmite to Batman?]
b). Why did he help WF?
c). Why did he get weaker, when he transcends what Perpetua created?

I mean, there's 'hints' that he foresaw all of this, but still.

a) well, given that imagination was said to be the life blood of the multiverse, it stands to reason it was perpetua that created it when she gave the original multiverse life. maybe? as for who assigned the imps their roles, i'd wager we don't find out.

b) maybe he helped wf because he likes chaos? same reason he does most things...

c) that was odd, but he is a CREATOR. he seems to be able to create universes and interact with them somehow, but if he wasn't responsible for creating it, he has no power over it? he admitted to not having any idea how earth got where it was. must be someone else responsible. the judges as a safeguard against perpetua escaping? /shrug

It’s very likely that the 5th dimension came to exist by itself, a by-product. I don’t think the 5th dimension applies to WF. In the same sense that time isn’t something you create; it’s the relationship between objects/mass

He does seem to have CONTROL of any being belong his dimension. I’m unsure if this is unique to him. He clearly managed to control the JL of Tomorrow. He even told Batman, to use the suit or he’d doing it personally. He very likely controlled Mxy as he entered the 3rd dimension

i tend to agree with you. i don't think he was responsible for the higher dimensions either, but i guess it's not really provable one way or the other. i don't think he controlled the league though. i think that future league was the league batman convinced to side with him. if he really did control beings the way you suggest, he wouldn't have needed his league to round up the villains. in his new multiverse the verse CHOSE justice. he didn't demand it or make it happen i don't think. least that's how i interpreted it.
/shrug

Originally posted by Phil
I still don't understand:
a). His relationship with World Forger [how...do they know each other? and what did the WF mean when he said he was 'assigned' to Superman - like Batmite to Batman?]
b). Why did he help WF?
c). Why did he get weaker, when he transcends what Perpetua created?

I mean, there's 'hints' that he foresaw all of this, but still.

a.) I think the "assigned" thing was just World Forger's way of saying: "you guys are important enough to existence that you get to have 5D Imps as your own personal guardian angels." As for how WF knew: I assume it's because he is intimately familiar with DC's cosmological superstructure on all its levels by virtue of being an upper-echelon cosmic figurehead.

b.) Mxy "agreed" to erase reality for WF and cause the Crisis event so that WF could replace the existing multiverse with his own... So at one point they evidently struck some kind of deal. Now *why* Mxy would agree to help WF in the first place is completely unknown. But again, he is basically omniscient and knows how everything is going to play out, so that could have just been part of a larger scheme.

c.) I have no clue why the Source Wall breaking would allow imagination to "run wild", thereby weakening the Imps. They didn't explain that one at all.

Mxy definitely knew how all of this was going to play out, imo. The whole reason he'd been infusing Superman with 5D energy over the years was to protect him from getting 'ported to the 6th dimension, after all... Aside from some of the more subtle hints I've mentioned before.

Tbh, I think all of this could just be Mxy's way of helping Superman keep 'ascending' to greater and greater heights... Certainly wouldn't be the first time he's done that recently *cough*Superman Reborn*cough* /shrug

Mxy outside of World's funniest and Supergirl joke book whatever it was called never showned anything beyond universal power in main DC continuity.

Facts

I would say WF should win this unless WF mxy who would stomp

Originally posted by Demon of Heaven
Mxy outside of World's funniest and Supergirl joke book whatever it was called never showned anything beyond universal power in main DC continuity.

Facts

I would say WF should win this unless WF mxy who would stomp


😂

Originally posted by Demon of Heaven
Mxy outside of World's funniest and Supergirl joke book whatever it was called never showned anything beyond universal power in main DC continuity.

Facts

I would say WF should win this unless WF mxy who would stomp

I think you're on the wrong forum.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think you're on the wrong forum.

Sorry i.dont try to wank the hell out of DC characters like you

Originally posted by Demon of Heaven
Mxy outside of World's funniest and Supergirl joke book whatever it was called never showned anything beyond universal power in main DC continuity.

Facts

I would say WF should win this unless WF mxy who would stomp

First, Mxy is meant to be a joke character.

Two, You do know every incantations you see of Mxy are one and the same right?

The last time Mxy got mad, he was wiping everything out of the DC Multiverse.

Originally posted by Demon of Heaven
Sorry i.dont try to wank the hell out of DC characters like you

You mean like Lucifer Morningstar is merely Chaos King level? Or maybe Dormammu beats everyone in DC?

This aint comicvine boy.

Originally posted by Demon of Heaven
Sorry i.dont try to wank the hell out of DC characters like you

No I mean, forum rules state full capacity.

We also have mods saying Mxy is the same across all appearances.

So you're just going against forum rules lmao

It's the SAME Mxy across ALL incarnations and media. I could go into the older evidence, but there's no need.

It was directly shown/mentioned on panel here:

And Dan Jurgens himself then drove that point home beyond all reasonable doubt here:

https://comicsalliance.com/superman-reborn-exclusive-interview/

I know there are some people who hate the fact that World's Funnest is canon to Mxy, because it makes him more powerful than any one of their pet characters... But it IS canon nonetheless. Period, end of story.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean like Lucifer Morningstar is merely Chaos King level? Or maybe Dormammu beats everyone in DC?

This aint comicvine boy.

At best he's right around them levels if not a slight level above

Dormammu is a chump and way overrated character that would get smashed by either