Mr Mxyzptlk vs World Forger

Originally posted by ibetroll

And "Classic" LT

Here, all of his power can at best destroy a solar system

alongside several other abstracts.

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... and dur at Eternity in the Dormy arc or the Genis-vell arc being universal.

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Genis/Entropy arc:

"Eternity, the cosmic being whose essence encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE"

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Dormammu/Umar arc:

"Wolds within Worlds, DimensionS folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,

and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,

the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"

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yawn

Originally posted by Mr Master
... I mean, can the misinterpreted lowballs sink any lower? Wut a joke.

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... and at Eternity in the Dormy arc or the Genis-vell arc being universal.

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Genis/Entropy arc:

"[b]Eternity, the cosmic being whose essence encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE"

Eternity is stated to be embodiment of universe twice and its confirmed that universe is destroyed twice more.

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Dormammu/Umar arc:

"Wolds within Worlds, DimensionS folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,

and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,

the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"

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[/B]

This is beyond hilarious. Dormammu recreated universe was confirmed six times in the arc.

Same is confirmed in the bio as well.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBhyqY5m/image.jpg

At this point you're just a glutton for punishment.

facepalm ... I'll dismantle your Dormy fallacies later on,
for now, am simply going to rip your Genis nonsense to shreds.

I already posted how the comic begins by describing Eternity, as the Multiverse!

"Eternity, the cosmic being whose essence encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE"

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and HOW do we know this is true? and the term "universe" was applied to mean the Multiverse?

Because, one of the universes that was destroyed with the rest of the Multiverse was the Microverse.

The Microverse is located OUTSIDE 616, it's stationed in ANOTHER universe.

So, unless evidence can be provided
that Genis hand picked the Microverse to the only other universe to destroy aside from 616,
someone needs to stop trolling.

You need to read comics, and stop trolling, wasting real debaters' time.

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Now I know you're gonna try and spin this with classic abhitrollific drivel,
and claim the Microverse is not in another universe, it's somehow in 616. LOL!

So, before you get a chance to please yourself in your own poppycock, I'm gonna shut that down now.

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In the first fourteen issues of Micronauts Version 2, it's explain several times over
how the "Makers" remade an entire Universe in their liking. How it's a another Universe, blah, blah.

Picked from UniverseS that were birthed via Big Bangs and ended in Entropy-Death. (literally stated)

You know, undoubtably actual entire whole UniverseS! From the actual All-Multi-Eternity Multiverse.

So you're full of it. Oh and yes, you got caught again.

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Anyway, I'll just move along with undeniable Proof,
that the Micro Cosmos that contains the Microverse is an entire whole Parallel Universe
remade by the Makers to suit their desires.

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*** This On Panel proof below concerns excerpts from Micronauts V2 #4 - 14 *** (1985)

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Actually ... I also have excerpts from Micronauts V1 as well,
also clearly differentiating the Microverse as a separate Universe.

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Lets begin (first I plug scenes from Micronauts V1 #14 and up)

Time Traveller himself states in reference to Reality 616:

"Now Karza knows that there are Other UniverseS Beyond the Microverse"

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Baron Karza had conquered the Micro-Cosmos that contain the Microverse. (A universe)

The Writer states about Karza after he discovers Reality 616:

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14773770_11.jpg]

"Broaden Karza's horizons ...
a madman who had conquered ONE Universe
will never rest until he has them all"

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... Bah, this is un-nessary, I'll just cut to the chase.

Was the Microverse without question a separate entire Parallel Universe

The Beyonder scan is from SW II. A tie-ins during Hulk #312 & 313

Secret Wars II ... The Micronauts tie-ins (V. 2 #16) .. and the Hulk tie-ins were published in 1985.

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I'll even throw in a 1984 arc where the X-Men & Micronauts joined to battle the "Entity."

Xavier:

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14773773_12.jpg]

"My thoughts cannot Breach the Spacewall
separating Your Dimension" (Microverse) "from Ours" (616)

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The Writer states concerning Reality 616 and the Microverse:

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/14773814_40.jpg]

"The fate of Two UniverseS hang in the balance"

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Marionette states:

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/14773815_41.jpg]

"We've been from one end of the Microverse to the other --
Beyond, to the Other Universe that contains Earth"

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How about WAY Before 1985 ... Micronauts V1. #34 and up ... (1981)

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The Wanderers (in Micronauts V2)
explain how Wayfinder led his people into the Micro-Cosmos
where he also created the galactic sized Microverse!

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14773779_14.jpg]

"The Wayfinders led us to a gate, and then into This brave New Universe"

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On panel support in Micronauts V1 #35 (1981)

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14773780_15.jpg]

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14773781_16.jpg]

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The Microverse CAN NOT be within 616,
because if the Microverse and 616 ever came in contact
it would obliterate both UniverseS! (1981)

Dr Strange states:

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14773782_17.jpg]

"The Microverse and The Macroverse" (Reality-616) "from coming together in Cosmic Collision"

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Dr Strange states concerning 616 and the Micro Cosmos containing the Microvere:

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14773783_18.jpg]

"New menace rises up to threaten our chances of saving Two UniverseS"

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Dr Strange again: (concerning 616 and the Microverse)

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14773784_19.jpg]

"You would allow Two UniverseS to be destroyed"

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Commander Raan is given a vision of what would happen if the Micro-Cosmos (contains the Microverse)
and Reality 616 were to come in contact.

The writer gives the exact reason I've been telling yall for years
WHY Two UniverseS (including pockets) can NOT be withIN the same Universe.

Interestingly enough, it only takes a piece of the Micro-Cosmos (like the Microverse)
to touch 616 and it goes to hell from there.

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14773785_20.jpg]

"The Microverse expanding - encroaching on the Space occupied by Earth.
But no Two objects or UniverseS can occupy the same place in Time"

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Dr Strange:

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/14773802_21.jpg]

"This is the moment of truth for Two UniverseS"

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The "Sword in the Star" itself tells us concerning 616 and the Micro Cosmos which are in danger:

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/14773803_22.jpg]

"As the fate of your Two UniverseS"

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The Writer column, Dr Strange and Raan: (as they fix the Spacewall via Captain Universe's power)

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/14773804_23.jpg]

"Strengthening it so that their UniverseS will never be in peril of Collision"

"The Microverse is saved"

"As is My Reality" (616)

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Let's go even further back. Hulk story ... he finds his way to the Micro-Cosmos: (1980)

Peter Gillis (writer) exposes the factual truth about the Micro-UniverseS!

Peter directly dismantles the "realms withIN realms" claim back in 1980.

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Hank Pym: (basically, he tells us you can only shrink to a certain limit in A Universe)

"The thing is, the "worlds within worlds we've been using NO longer works!
Violate the Plank Limit and you drop Out of This Universe and into Another Parallel One.
Which we call a Micro World"

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Anyway,
so Pym with tech, sends Hulk and his gal pal Universe hunting via shrinking pass Planck barriers)

(they pass by the Microverse)

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/14773806_25.jpg]

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/14773807_26.jpg]

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Fantastic Four - Byrne's run, 1984 ... supports Pym's on panel truth:

"This is the Microverse, hm? Isn't how I'd pictured walking on a sub-atomic particle."

"That's because you're NOT, ... we now know This is Extra-Dimensional Space" ...

"I thought we were shrinking?"

"We were, but that somehow Pops us through into a Parallel Universe. We call it the Microverse"

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The Makers created the Micro Cosmos (a standalone entire separate Universe)
that's located outside 616.

It contains the Microverse. (the Micro Cosmos is usually referred to as the Microverse)
At its inception, this Cosmos was one of many Entire UniverseS,
that could only be accessed via shrinking beyond the sub-atomic scale
to the point where you literally pop OUT of the current Universe you were in,
and into a Parallel Universe that's located withIN the Multiverse of Infinite alternate realities,
but completely/totaly OUTSIDE the 616 Dimension.

(this Nexus creating shrinking affect,
can be applied from other Realities, e.g. Microverse to other Universes)

So, it's not in a "pocket-realm/dimension/universe" within 616, (no such thing anyway)
and it's not within the atoms of 616 either, not at all. (no such thing either)

I've proven conclusively and without doubt, that the Microverse and the Universe it's in,
along with ALL the Parallel/Alternate Realities that can be reached
via shrinking into a infinitesimal Nexus ... are ALL located Outside 616.

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The Microverse, (or Micro Cosmos) is a Parallel Universe Outside 616.

"In order to give This Universe meaning,
The Makers brought beings from the scattered UniverseS of Infinity
to populate."

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/14753193_0.jpg]

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The Microverse was located in a Universe remade by the Makers.

Here we see more of the Cosmos around the Microverse.

The Microverse proper (Galaxy size) was surrounded by a barrier known as the "Spacewall."
The "Dreaming Star" is located withIN THIS Universe but FAR Beyond the "Spacewall
The "Spacewall" also separates the Microverse proper from the rest of its Cosmos,
and of course other universes.

[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14753051_3.jpg]

"The Makers ... To have reshaped This Universe so it resembled the structure of life" ...

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This is the literal explanation of how the Makers came to create the Micro Cosmos.

It leaves no doubt that they took an existing entire Parallel Reality & re-created it in their image.

"The Makers looked at UniverseS upon UniverseS --
saw their process from Big Bang to their Entropy-Death."

The Makers didn't like that. So they reshaped one of those Universes
that had a big bang & entropy-death, so that it would never die.

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(Micronauts - Bio - 2006)

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/14773813_32.jpg]

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If all that somehow does not suffice, heh ...

Beyonder, while sitting in 616, discovers the Microverse while on his astral tour of the Multiverse!

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Beyonder, in the Microverse now, explains what he did in the above scan:

"I am from Beyond!"

"You sound like you're from Earth" (616)

"From There" (616) "I looked through the Worlds Beyond Worlds --
and saw This Distant Universe" (Microverse) "was in trouble."

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thankyou ... and read comics before trying to discuss them. 👆

All that and yet, it still confirms four times in the bios that Genis destroyed only one universe.

Photon's bio

Phyla's bio

Elysius's bio

Eternity's bio

All state multiple times that Entropy recreated UNIVERSE. Not multiple universes, not multiverse.

Your mad ramblings are white noise to me at this point.

Stay on topic please

Originally posted by abhilegend
All that and yet, it still confirms four times in the bios that Genis destroyed only one universe.

Photon's bio

Phyla's bio

Elysius's bio

Eternity's bio

All state multiple times that Entropy recreated UNIVERSE. Not multiple universes, not multiverse.

Your mad ramblings are white noise to me at this point.

Not a parallel universe which can be destroyed separately.

Originally posted by abhilegend

All that

Originally posted by abhilegend

and yet, it still confirms four times

in the Bios

that Genis destroyed only one universe.

Photon's bio

Phyla's bio

Elysius's bio

Eternity's bio

... "confirmed" ... in (ready yall) ... bios ... hysterical

Just a few days ago you were trolling per usual
cause I used "bios" to affirm on panel depictions in the Kubik/Kosmos case,
now, when you think it's gonna help ya, since you have ZERO on panel evidence,
let's use bios and nothing but bios
to try and deflect the plethora of On Panel proof presented by Mr M. 👆

You're a joke.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Your mad ramblings are white noise to me at this point.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Also microverse is defined as a sub atomic universe in Captain Marvel series.

Not a parallel universe which can be destroyed separately.

Ay, ... here's an excerpt from the bio book for ya ... Microverse

(official Handbook 2007 - one year AFTER Genis/Entropy was published. still a Parallel Universe)

😆 ... Read comics dude and stop wasting our time.

Originally posted by Mr Master
On Panel truthful facts! ... also corroborated via "bios." lol.

facepalm ... your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

... "confirmed" ... in (ready yall) ... [b]bios ... hysterical

Just a few days ago you were trolling per usual
cause I used "bios" to affirm on panel depictions in the Kubik/Kosmos case,
now, when you think it's gonna help ya, since you have ZERO on panel evidence,
let's use bios and nothing but bios
to try and deflect the plethora of On Panel proof presented by Mr M. 👆

You're a joke.

... more gobbledygook. ... nothing. ... meaningless.

... mumbo-jumbo stained misinterpretations. it's like a disease regarding you.

Ay, ... here's an excerpt from the bio book for ya ... Microverse

(official Handbook 2007 - one year AFTER Genis/Entropy was published. still a Parallel Universe)

😆 ... Read comics dude and stop wasting our time. [/B]

In this case, both comics and the bios supported that Entropy created one universe. You didn't post bios, you posted link from marvunapp which is not official.

Cry harder. Captain Marvel comic stated clearly that microverse was a sub atomic universe.

in comic>in bio.

👆

And the ass sniffer is never far. What a scorned child.

Originally posted by abhilegend

In this case, both comics and the bios supported that Entropy created one universe.

I challenge you to produce a single scan that even alludes to the idea
that the Microverse is located withIN the 616 reality.

Bring it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

You didn't post bios,

you posted link from marvunapp

which is not official

As always, never ending: You don't know what you're talking about concerning Marvunapp.

The Author/Owner of Marvunapp has worked extensively with Marvel Comics for years.

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The Head Handbook Writer of ALL OFFICIAL Handbooks

since 2004 is the owner/creator of Marvunapp. 👆

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Jeff Christiansen, also known as "Snood," is a freaking wizard of information
that you and I will never have the luxury to take for granted.
This guy is connected with Writers/Editors/Aritsts you name it, and he many
times gets detailed inside info about stories via said Marvel employees.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/appmasts.htm

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Aside from his massive involvement in Marvel comics, Jeff is a personal friend of Stan Lee's:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/christiansenjeff.htm

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The first page of EVERY single OFFICIAL Handbook directs us to the Marvunapp site: (here's two)

"unofficial" huh? ... facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend

Captain Marvel comic stated clearly that microverse was a sub atomic universe.

Or ANY other universe being located inside 616?

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Anyway, horse shit aside ... From the Genis/Entorpy arc itself:

"The Dimension known as the Microverse" ... (so a separate universe)

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"Rick ... a Universe away" (Microverse is a universe away from 616)

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"Marvel ... he is presently out in your Universe," (616) while you remain here." (in the Microverse)

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"I" (Rick) ... "get me BACK TO MY Universe. The MACROverse" (616)

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yawn

facepalma bio is a bio. a website is a website.

doesnt matter who writes them or how much you think they know. 👇

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
facepalma bio is a bio. a website is a website.

doesnt matter who writes them or how much you think they know. 👇

Bios can be use if it doesn’t contradict the comic that is the primary canon.

Originally posted by Mr Master
And the ass sniffer is never far. What a scorned child.

Rubbish!

I challenge you to produce a single scan that even alludes to the idea
that the Microverse is located withIN the 616 reality.

Already did numbnuts.

Also sub atomic universe.

https://postimg.cc/k6dsgYxK

Bring it.

WTF are you lying about now? LOL! This shit don't stop. It's hilarious.

As always, never ending: You don't know what you're talking about concerning Marvunapp.

[b]The Author/Owner of Marvunapp has worked extensively with Marvel Comics for years.

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The Head Handbook Writer of ALL OFFICIAL Handbooks

since 2004 is the owner/creator of Marvunapp. 👆

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Jeff Christiansen, also known as "Snood," is a freaking wizard of information
that you and I will never have the luxury to take for granted.
This guy is connected with Writers/Editors/Aritsts you name it, and he many
times gets detailed inside info about stories via said Marvel employees.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/appmasts.htm

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Aside from his massive involvement in Marvel comics, Jeff is a personal friend of Stan Lee's:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/christiansenjeff.htm

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The first page of EVERY single OFFICIAL Handbook directs us to the Marvunapp site: (here's two)

"unofficial" huh? ... facepalm [/B]

Nobody cares. If you come to cry about why I don't consider marvunapp, you've got the wrong person.

Bring an official bio or GTFO.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Scans of this "sub-atomic universe" being located withIN 616?

Or ANY other universe being located inside 616?

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Anyway, horse shit aside ... From the Genis/Entorpy arc itself:

"The Dimension known as the Microverse" ... (so a separate universe)

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"Rick ... [b]a Universe away" (Microverse is a universe away from 616)

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"Marvel ... he is presently out in your Universe," (616) while you remain here." (in the Microverse)

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"I" (Rick) ... "get me BACK TO MY Universe. The MACROverse" (616)

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yawn [/B]

https://postimg.cc/k6dsgYxK

Look it up.

https://i.postimg.cc/HWBrfV8m/2.jpg

"an entire universe that is millions of times smaller than the head of a pin"

and there are LOTS of other examples of the microverse being called a "subatomic universe". here are a couple-
https://i.postimg.cc/c1gqNzrJ/0.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/wMf3JGYM/1.jpg