Universal healthcare

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What do you think about universal healthcare

Universal healthcare

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Thank you very much for asking us this question.

We have quite a few conservatives posting on this site. Intelligent, educated, well-informed conservatives. If even they support a Universal Healthcare option (the poll shows that they do, most likely), you can be sure that the numbers we commonly see have some sort of skew or sampling taint that is not being picked up.

Almost everyone I know supports a Universal Healthcare option including my extremely conservative pals from Oklahoma who live in the country.

Why?

Because conservatives know about the multi-Trillion dollar Health Insurance lobbying that keeps fighting to keep a a program like "medicare for all" from being implemented.

Good luck on your research. Thanks for doing something like that! I love it!

Surely I'm one of the people DDM is talking about. As one of those people, I will say I honestly don't want anyone to be denied healthcare. Well, not any American citizen.

But it needs to be feasible, it can't be a pipe dream.

Originally posted by Surtur
Surely I'm one of the people DDM is talking about. As one of those people, I will say I honestly don't want anyone to be denied healthcare. Well, not any American citizen.

But it needs to be feasible, it can't be a pipe dream.

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Everyone deserves healthcare. Everyone

Originally posted by Surtur
Surely I'm one of the people DDM is talking about. As one of those people, I will say I honestly don't want anyone to be denied healthcare. Well, not any American citizen.

But it needs to be feasible, it can't be a pipe dream.

So what would you change?

Cut military spending.

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The Military Industrial Complex needs to end. It's no laughing matter.

Originally posted by Surtur
Cut military spending.
Agreed

Yeah I'm all for cuts there, but it's important to note that discretionary spending doesn't cover the whole pie chart of government spending.

Yep. Me too.

You could close all but the most strategically geopolitically important bases around the world for a start. Spending half that budget on the military would still mean outspending the nearest rival nation by 5x

Split the rest between health, education, energy, infrastructure and science and you'd solve a considerable amount of America's problems within a generation. You'd have a healthier and better educated populace meaning less welfare spending. You'd have a modernised country to help future proof the economy. You'd break the reliance on the 2 century old technology of burning stuff for power. You'd set the world up for a technological revolution to equal the industrial revolution.

Go on. Do it.

Originally posted by Surtur
The Military Industrial Complex needs to end. It's no laughing matter.

You think

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Yep. Me too.

You could close all but the most strategically geopolitically important bases around the world for a start. Spending half that budget on the military would still mean outspending the nearest rival nation by 5x

Split the rest between health, education, energy, infrastructure and science and you'd solve a considerable amount of America's problems within a generation. You'd have a healthier and better educated populace meaning less welfare spending. You'd have a modernised country to help future proof the economy. You'd break the reliance on the 2 century old technology of burning stuff for power. You'd set the world up for a technological revolution to equal the industrial revolution.

Go on. Do it.


Or work on paying off the debt and giving the rest back to the taxpayer (or rather letting the taxpayer keep it)

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah I'm all for cuts there, but it's important to note that discretionary spending doesn't cover the whole pie chart of government spending.

Correct. Actual military spening is closer to a trillion, annually.

I'm in favor of universal healthcare.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Yep. Me too.

You could close all but the most strategically geopolitically important bases around the world for a start. Spending half that budget on the military would still mean outspending the nearest rival nation by 5x

Split the rest between health, education, energy, infrastructure and science and you'd solve a considerable amount of America's problems within a generation. You'd have a healthier and better educated populace meaning less welfare spending. You'd have a modernised country to help future proof the economy. You'd break the reliance on the 2 century old technology of burning stuff for power. You'd set the world up for a technological revolution to equal the industrial revolution.

Go on. Do it.

It's likely not going to happen with a Conservative in office and every time a Liberal President cuts even a small slice out of the Military budget the calls of "you hate the military; you don't support our troops!" goes out to the masses.

I can't see it happening, is what I'm saying.

Re: Universal healthcare

the lack of universal healthcare in any first world nation is a disgrace

Originally posted by Darksul POWER
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We easily cut some military spending fat out and it wouldn't matter, to make sure no kids in the US go hungry, our elderly are cared for and our veterans don't end up holding "Can you spare a dollar" cardboard signs.

I live in the states and am not in favor of universal healthcare.

I'm willing to make compromises for juveniles, and subsidize initial ER treatment costs related to trauma-related accidents, but overall too many people in this country are chronically unhealthy to make any sort of universal healthcare system work. Hospitals are not centralized and have a very wide array of subpar to excellent quality control measures. Healthcare personnel are strained as is---allowing anyone to receive health-care for bullshit would be disastrous and simply lower the standard of care for everyone.

We live in a society where junk food is easier to obtain than healthy foods. People are fat, lazy, and ignorant about their health overall. Perhaps we can take baby steps over the course of decades to reach the end goal, but it ain't happening overnight.