Blue Marvel vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by darthgoober
See now I'm obligated to disagree cause you used Cap as an example lol. Cap hits that level too frequently IMO. Don't get me wrong because I do consider to be extremely high end for him, but not infrequent enough to toss it out completely. I mean he does that kind of thing at least 2 or 3 times a year and it's not like he's at the top of the list when it comes to number of appearances.

Lol well replace with any other example you wish, where there is a discrepancy between showings. I used that because Albert already used a DC (so wanted a Marvel version) and that was the first that came to mind.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Do you think speed gives her the majority though?

Speed, PLUS the haxx weaponry she has (which is boosted by the bloodlust stip).

Her lasso and sword are one shot weapons IF she can land them. I believe she has the skill to use them, AND the speed to land the hits.

Both sides are bloodlusted, true. But if I face Mike Tyson, and we're both bloodlusted....but I have a gun (which is faster than him)....doesn't matter if he's stronger, or more versatile, or more skilled at cooking/fighting/rapping/whatever. I am faster than him, and I have the will/skill to use my gun for a killing shot.

Fight starts, he goes to attack me, I shoot him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol well replace with any other example you wish, where there is a discrepancy between showings. I used that because Albert already used a DC (so wanted a Marvel version) and tha

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah see, virtually anyone else on the lower end of the spectrum I totally support the point, just not Cap lol. Though I'd take at least some issue with outright dismissing such a thing from Batman too.

Cool, ok, use Black Panther lol. Suggest whoever you want.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

But what feats of speed does BM have? I have been asking this.

Because he fights speedy characters and THEY don't outspeed him? But OTHER characters have ALSO fought these same speedy characters and weren't outsped.

King Hyperion? Depowered Juggernaut.

Sentry? Hercules (and depowered Rulk, who wasn't Loebforce).

Namor? Captain America.

Now, you will argue that these were all low showings for King Hype, Sentry, and Namor.

I agree 3000. But why are those fights low showings for the three, and yet, when they fight BM and HE isn't outsped, are those BM fights not low showings for the three?

I'm not trying to throw low showings at BM. I am asking why are his fights with King Hype et al not seen as low showings for those characters. We assume that they are all fighting at their peak efficiencies when facing Adam, because..?

And again, I ALSO have speedy characters vs WW. But with THEM, they specifically mention her speed. How she's 'too fast'.

We also have 'objective' showings. Omega Beams don't have slow or fast gears, and in the n52, in their first showing, they were fast enough to nearly hit Flash, who was running out of breath. Yet, WW was fast enough to react to them, block them, then cut their source out.

Because in his Official Marvel bio, it specifically states that he has super speed, just like it states that he he has super strength, extremely intelligent, super durable, and has very powerful antimatter powers. Do we take heed to all the rest and dismiss the speed part? Gladiator has shown speed against Thor.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because in his Official Marvel bio, it specifically states that he has super speed, just like it states that he he has super strength, extremely intelligent, super durable, and has very powerful antimatter powers. Do we take heed to all the rest and dismiss the speed part? Gladiator has shown speed against Thor.

.....you know what we feel about handbooks and bio.

And again...I am NOT disputing he has superspeed. I am doubting he has the level of speed needed.

Luke Cage has super strength. Is it on Hulk's level? Course not. But his bio says he has super strength, right?

Edit: after all, Supergirl has superspeed too. WW was even faster than her. That's all I'm saying.

Originally posted by carver9
Hyperion was on his knees struggling to get words out. Yes, it damaged him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because in his Official Marvel bio, it specifically states that he has super speed, just like it states that he he has super strength, extremely intelligent, super durable, and has very powerful antimatter powers. Do we take heed to all the rest and dismiss the speed part? Gladiator has shown speed against Thor.

Originally posted by h1a8
Get out of here.
At best it hurt him momentarily. But he was fine afterwards with no signs of damage. Making Hyperion go arrrgh with zero lasting damage (or any visible) isn't really a great feat when it comes to high heralds. That showing doesn't convince me that he can damage Diana's bracelets (she will block) or even ko her with a single blast.

I dont think you're grasping the big point here. The...blast...did...not...touch...him. He fell to his knees in pain from a blast that didnt even connect with his skin. Do you get it now? A direct hit would've did far more damage.

So the argument is that BM's attacks will deal more damage than the Omega Beams? Ok.

What are you talking about?

Well.....Diana can block it. She's been in close proximity to OBs before without it hurting her...so being in close proximity to BM shouldn't hurt her, unless we are saying it does more damage.

Whatever you're arguing DS, Wonder Woman would be in for the fight of her life. You preaching stomp doesn't take away from Adams abilities and obvious extreme power.

At full capacities, WW is in for the fight of her life against Darkseid and banned members of the forum.

Put it this way. I bet Supergirl has better speed feats than BM.

And WW, without being bloodlusted, and trying to talk her down, handled her easily and was too fast for her.

Hulk has better strength fears than Darkseid. So Hulk is stronger.

Absolutely, Hulk has better strength fears than Darkseid, Hulk fears strength.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Hulk has better strength fears than Darkseid. So Hulk is stronger.

When Hulk drags the multiverse down with him just by falling down, let me know 🙂

But he's not in this thread, and I refuse to be drawn on this.

The Omega Beams have better speed feats than Blue Marvel. WW was faster.

Supergirl has better speed feats than Blue Marvel. WW was faster.

WW has a one shot weapon in her sword, and in her lasso. She has the skill to use them.

BOTH sides are bloodlust, but BM isn't able to do anything about it before WW goes for his head (like she did with Darkseid).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When Hulk drags the multiverse down with him just by falling down, let me know 🙂

But he's not in this thread, and I refuse to be drawn on this.

The Omega Beams have better speed feats than Blue Marvel. WW was faster.

Supergirl has better speed feats than Blue Marvel. WW was faster.

WW has a one shot weapon in her sword, and in her lasso. She has the skill to use them.

BOTH sides are bloodlust, but BM isn't able to do anything about it before WW goes for his head (like she did with Darkseid).

That dragging crap has nothing to do with strength. Hulk has superior strength fears than Darkseid. Hulk is stronger.

This would end up being an episode of blacked

Wtf is a strength fear?? Im trying but I don’t get you people!!

My auto-correct keeps changing "feats" to "fears".