Originally posted by h1a8
There are so many different levels of super speed that it ain't funny.
Everyone agrees that BM has some level of superspeed. But it's not on the level of WW.
He was able to go punch for punch with guys that can go punch for punch with Gladiator, so your entire claim is baseless.
Originally posted by Stoic
He was able to go punch for punch with guys that can go punch for punch with Gladiator, so your entire claim is baseless.
But where does it end? You still haven't answered my question.
He goes punch for punch with guys who go punch for punch with Captain America. He isn't outsped by guys who don't outspeed a depowered Juggernaut. Why do you assume King Hype was using his full powers, when they didn't use their full powers in other fights?
Simple question.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But where does it end? You still haven't answered my question.He goes punch for punch with guys who go punch for punch with Captain America. He isn't outsped by guys who don't outspeed a depowered Juggernaut. Why do you assume King Hype was using his full powers, when they didn't use their full powers in other fights?
Simple question.
King Hype was using his speed during that fight. What would suggest otherwise? Because we didn’t see speed lines in every panel? Diana is a beast fighter I could believe that she’d outfight him, but the same may hold true for Adam vs Zarda.
Adam seemed confident of his ability to keep up with another version of Hyperion as well.
The fact that depowered Juggy wasn't too slow to hit Hype. Otherwise, we are now saying that Blue Marvel = King Hype = depowered Juggy in speed. And let's not go down the rabbit hole of who a depowered Juggy is in speed terms.
Zarda isn't WW.
Now we're not even using feats, just confidence? Lol.
My point still remains. WW has gear and speed to stomp BM here. We don't even need to bring skill into it, but it can also play a part.
Originally posted by Stoic
King Hype was using his speed during that fight. What would suggest otherwise? Because we didn’t see speed lines in every panel? Diana is a beast fighter I could believe that she’d outfight him, but the same may hold true for Adam vs Zarda.Adam seemed confident of his ability to keep up with another version of Hyperion as well.
This is what you call a circular argument. "He has speed so he MUST have used it." You have nothing of substance. And you're using Hyperion interchangeably. A version of Hyperion fighting Gladiator at super speed means nothing for the version Blue Marvel fought.
Originally posted by StoicYou also doubt that he can hit her, but I wonder if that would be the case if Sentry, Namor, or Hyperion fought her? Or is this a racial issue?
LMAO
Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman wins this but the arguments being made here are garbage. Dark not too long ago posted speed lines doesn't dictate super speed AND it's funny seeing him argue slow people tagging fast people. The consistency.
So is this like when you argued lack of(IIRC) collateral damage against someone Hulk was pitted against, then perhaps on the same page after multiple unflattering examples were given for Hulk, you asked why are people arguing collateral damage?
Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman wins this but the arguments being made here are garbage. Dark not too long ago posted speed lines doesn't dictate super speed AND it's funny seeing him argue slow people tagging fast people. The consistency.
Then we are back to square one.
What are Blue Marvel's speed feats to suggest he can fight WW?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then we are back to square one.What are Blue Marvel's speed feats to suggest he can fight WW?
He fought King Hyperion who I never saw speed feats for(or even them clearly fighting at super speed) but since his name is Hyperion he must get the feats of the Hyperion that showed nanosecond combat speed against Gladiator because reasons.
Originally posted by Delta1938
... because reasons.