Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm curious about the feats of LT which give him the win here. Mind sharing?
He was dictating the architects of 2 megaverses. Restored the IG meeting with a snap of his fingers where all the other abstracts were blasted away, merged surfer with the universe to let him experience godhood, sealed off universes several times, had a multiversal battle with the beyonders, his skin was used by illuminati to survive multiversal collapse and well... he's consistently shown to be above the other abstracts.
Originally posted by operator616
He was dictating the architects of 2 megaverses.
Restored the IG meeting with a snap of his fingers where all the other abstracts were blasted away
The only good feat honestly and Quasar even retconned it as merely M bodies.
, merged surfer with the universe to let him experience godhood,
Meh.
sealed off universes several times
Only one I recall is against Korvac.
, had a multiversal battle with the beyonders
Getting killed is a feat now?
his skin was used by illuminati to survive multiversal collapse and well..
It was just destruction of two universes.
. he's consistently shown to be above the other abstracts.
Again with comparisons? So I take it as LT has at best universal feats, eh?
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just comparison with other characters though.The only good feat honestly and Quasar even retconned it as merely M bodies.
Only one I recall is against Korvac.
Getting killed is a feat now?
It was just destruction of two universes.
Again with comparisons? So I take it as LT has at best universal feats, eh?
No he was actively holding them in his hands and dictating them. That's an influence of power.
Every abstract gathering was retconned into m-bodies in quasar iirc, but im not sure how that's relevant? that doesn't mean they weren't at full power.
Yeah that was the only time, i got confused about quasar where he merely sealed new universe earth
it was a battle across all realities, so showing that LT can battle across all universes. Meaning he is multiversal.
It was multiversal collapse
Are you implying he's universal? That's not even mentioning that he can exist in higher dimensional spaces and even oversees all the higher dimensions. Oversees all the multiverses and the like.
Originally posted by operator616
No he was actively holding them in his hands and dictating them. That's an influence of power.
Hardly.
Every abstract gathering was retconned into m-bodies in quasar iirc, but im not sure how that's relevant? that doesn't mean they weren't at full power.
M bodies don't operate on full power.
Yeah that was the only time, i got confused about quasar where he merely sealed new universe earth
Good.
it was a battle across all realities, so showing that LT can battle across all universes. Meaning he is multiversal.
Even Uatu and Aron have done that, doesn't mean jackshit. Getting killed isn't a feat.
It was multiversal collapse
It was an incursion. Nothing more.
Are you implying he's universal? That's not even mentioning that he can exist in higher dimensional spaces and even oversees all the higher dimensions. Oversees all the multiverses and the like.
And yet, has nothing but universal feats. Adam Warlock LT (More powerful than previous LT) couldn't restore a single universe and one universe gives you power to rival and surpass LT.
So yeah, I'm doing it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hardly.M bodies don't operate on full power.
Even Uatu and Aron have done that, doesn't mean jackshit. Getting killed isn't a feat.
It was an incursion. Nothing more.
And yet, has nothing but universal feats. Adam Warlock LT (More powerful than previous LT) couldn't restore a single universe and one universe gives you power to rival and surpass LT.
So yeah, I'm doing it.
Whatever you say.
Scan? no bs saying that it's just a visualization which doesn't prove anything, i want actual scan saying m-bodies don't operate at full power.
Great feat for the watchers, i guess.
which is capable of destroying universes, yes.
Warlock was LT of a single actuality, which doesn't make a lotta sense but it is what it is.
So which versions of spectre win/lose iyo?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hardly.M bodies don't operate on full power.
Good.
Even Uatu and Aron have done that, doesn't mean jackshit. Getting killed isn't a feat.
It was an incursion. Nothing more.
And yet, has nothing but universal feats. Adam Warlock LT (More powerful than previous LT) couldn't restore a single universe and one universe gives you power to rival and surpass LT.
So yeah, I'm doing it.
That's what i was expecting you to post hence my comment. Eternity being a visualization doesn't mean he doesn't have power or are you assuming he was just a hologram or something in warlock trial? Yes he sends a visualization -- a physical manifestation instead of appearing as a freakin' universe in a trial, but that doesn't mean his power is limited.