Originally posted by Darth Thor
“You made my men look like minimum wage maul cops, thats hurtful”They were Coulsens men, not just random people. Stop acting butthurt and give a proper rebuttal. Cap has shown no skill without the use of his powers. That big agent was just another example of Thor beating on skilled strongmen than he is.
Crossbones has no powers 😬
WS wasnt stronger than Cap. Thor went up against a stronger opponent in H2H, and was bartering him, whilst skilfully avoiding his hits. More impressive.
On what basis are you fed deciding any of these guys are as good as Thor? Thor trumps them all in experience.
Your hatred for Thor is notes. Doesnt change the facts. Facts are on my side. Thor was Obviously more impressive without powers than Steve was without powers. And with powers, Cap couldnt hope to display the speed, agility and manoeuvrability as applied to combat that Thor has against Hulk.
Apologies, random non important Coulson agents lol.
Crossbones has a suit that makes him strong enough to be a treat.
The WS has the SSS and a bionic arm. Bucky is Hydra's most skilled assassin and was still outbested by Rogers. That's a way better feat than beating some unknown agents.
Thor has literally 0 H2H combat feats besides the Shield scene. That's not enough to contest guys like BP, Bucky, Black Widow, or Steve.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Apologies, random non important Coulson agents lol.Crossbones has a suit that makes him strong enough to be a treat.
The WS has the SSS and a bionic arm. Bucky is Hydra's most skilled assassin and was still outbested by Rogers. That's a way better feat than beating some unknown agents.
Thor has literally 0 H2H combat feats besides the Shield scene. That's not enough to contest guys like BP, Bucky, Black Widow, or Steve.
Shield agents are Shield agents. Stop downplaying that Non Powered feat.
Who says Winter Soldier is Hydras Most Skilled Assassin?
Unknown does not equate to weak.
Thor was beating the shit out of a much stronger opponent in Hulk. Thats hardly Zero Feats Lmao.
Much more impressive tHan when Winter Soldier went up against a stronger opponent in Spider-Man.
Again, Thor has visually displayed the best in combat relfexes, speed and agility by evading Hulks hits, and battering him in return.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Shield agents are Shield agents. Stop downplaying that Non Powered feat.Who says Winter Soldier is Hydras Most Skilled Assassin?
Unknown does not equate to weak.
Thor was beating the shit out of a much stronger opponent in Hulk. Thats hardly Zero Feats Lmao.
Much more impressive tHan when Winter Soldier went up against a stronger opponent in Spider-Man.
Again, Thor has visually displayed the best in combat relfexes, speed and agility by evading Hulks hits, and battering him in return.
Without feats they are nothing but Shield agents, boy. Someone like Natasha would have defeated those agents wayyyy better than Thor did, don't make me laugh!
The Winter Soldier movie says so, I suggest you watch the rest of the MCU films.
That's a strenght/power feat not a feat of skill, please!
The Hulk is considerably the least skilled fighter in the entirety of the MCU. You are clearly desperate here
I won't debate WHAT EVERYONE HERE KNOWS, Captain America is the MCU's most skilled fighters if not one of the best.
P.S: Not here, most people here have a tremendous bias for Thor.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1)Without feats they are nothing but Shield agents, boy. Someone like Natasha would have defeated those agents wayyyy better than Thor did, don't make me laugh!2)The Winter Soldier movie says so, I suggest you watch the rest of the MCU films.
3)That's a strenght/power feat not a feat of skill, please!
4)The Hulk is considerably the least skilled fighter in the entirety of the MCU. [B]You are clearly desperate here
5)I won't debate WHAT EVERYONE HERE KNOWS, Captain America is the MCU's most skilled fighters if not one of the best.
P.S: Not here, most people here have a tremendous bias for Thor. [/B]
1)Wrong they are Shield agents and Coulsens men. Thats not nothing.
What has Black Widow got to do with this?
2) I suggest you give quotes if you want your argument to have any substance. Its not difficult: I quoted Coulsen on the last page. Would have been a non-rebuttal if I simply asked you to rewatch Thor1.
3) It was speed and manoeuvrability as applied to combat. Clearly honed through years of battle experience. Of course his superior physiology helps. (A physiology that Worthy Cap has not displayed anywhere).
4) Its very clear whose desperate when im the one giving quotes and examples while you are just making blanket statements.
5) This isnt about Captain America not being skilled. Its about your blanket claim that he is more skilled than Thor and more physically capable in his Worthy form. Youve done a terrible job of justifying either tbh.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
1)Wrong they are Shield agents and Coulsens men. Thats not nothing.
What has Black Widow got to do with this?2) I suggest you give quotes if you want your argument to have any substance. Its not difficult: I quoted Coulsen on the last page. Would have been a non-rebuttal if I simply asked you to rewatch Thor1.
3) It was speed and manoeuvrability as applied to combat. Clearly honed through years of battle experience. Of course his superior physiology helps. (A physiology that Worthy Cap has not displayed anywhere).
4) Its very clear whose desperate when im the one giving quotes and examples while you are just making blanket statements.
5) This isnt about Captain America not being skilled. Its about your blanket claim that he is more skilled than Thor and more physically capable in his Worthy form. Youve done a terrible job of justifying either tbh.
I'm not gonna even bother. Any MCU/Marvel fan knows that Steve is the best if not one of the most skilled fighters.
You can cherish Thor all you want, being the best MCU fighter isn't one of his attributes.
Steve has fought and overcome guys like BP, Winter Soldier and Crossbones, which is more impressive than anything Thor has to account for.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I'm not gonna even bother. Any MCU/Marvel fan knows that Steve is the best if not one of the most skilled fighters.You can cherish Thor all you want, being the best MCU fighter isn't one of his attributes.
Steve has fought and overcome guys like BP, Winter Soldier and Crossbones, which is more impressive than anything Thor has to account for.
Again this lame argument that EVERYONE KNOWS. Have to say thats a piss poor way to make a point Josh.
And especially ludicrous after you asked me to prove Thor can take a fodder minion of Thanos in 1 punch.
Youre just saying names without proving anything.
I can give you random names as well. Valkyrie, Sif, Volstagg, Fandral and Hogan. All warriors below Thor.
Let me know if you wanna take this argument to a proper level of debate, or just battlezone it. Just remember my argument is theres nothing from Cap or Worthy Cap that compares to Thors impressive strength + speed/agility/skill hes displayed against Warrior Hulk.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I'm not gonna even bother. Any MCU/Marvel fan knows that Steve is the best if not one of the most skilled fighters.You can cherish Thor all you want, being the best MCU fighter isn't one of his attributes.
Steve has fought and overcome guys like BP, Winter Soldier and Crossbones, which is more impressive than anything Thor has to account for.
You do know Thor is at least a few hundred yes old right? And he with the warrior 3 and Sif travelled the realms and fought in multiple battles right?
Saying Steve is a better fighter than Thor is asinine. Thor proved without his powers, he could still take and beat Coulson’s best trained agents.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Again this lame argument that EVERYONE KNOWS. Have to say thats a piss poor way to make a point Josh.And especially ludicrous after you asked me to prove Thor can take a fodder minion of Thanos in 1 punch.
Youre just saying names without proving anything.
I can give you random names as well. Valkyrie, Sif, Volstagg, Fandral and Hogan. All warriors below Thor.
Let me know if you wanna take this argument to a proper level of debate, or just battlezone it. Just remember my argument is theres nothing from Cap or Worthy Cap that compares to Thors impressive strength + speed/agility/skill hes displayed against Warrior Hulk.
EVERYONE KNOWS IT!
Best H2H fighters in the MCU:
https://www.cbr.com/15-best-hand-to-hand-fighters-in-the-mcu/
Cap ranked #1
Thor isn't even on the list 😂
Most skilled fighters over-all
https://www.cbr.com/mcu-best-fighters/
Cap ranked #3
Thor ranked #16
Expert's opinion:
Cap ranked #1
Thor ranked #4
I can probably bring 100 pages, where Cap will always be placed above Thor!
I am not going to debate something that is pretty clear just because your bias doesn't let you get pass it!
Originally posted by SquallX
You do know Thor is at least a few hundred yes old right? And he with the warrior 3 and Sif travelled the realms and fought in multiple battles right?Saying Steve is a better fighter than Thor is asinine. Thor proved without his powers, he could still take and beat Coulson’s best trained agents.
1200 years old I guess. And? Thor hasn't desplayed any sort of fighting skills to the level of Cap.
Again, Cap has faced against MCU's most skilled fighters and come on top. Thor has no fighting feats besides beating some unknown, non-important Coulson agents.
PLEASE!!
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
EVERYONE KNOWS IT![B]Best H2H fighters in the MCU:
https://www.cbr.com/15-best-hand-to-hand-fighters-in-the-mcu/
Cap ranked #1
Thor isn't even on the list 😂Most skilled fighters over-all
https://www.cbr.com/mcu-best-fighters/
Cap ranked #3
Thor ranked #16Expert's opinion:
Cap ranked #1
Thor ranked #4I can probably bring 100 pages, where Cap will always be placed above Thor!
I am not going to debate something that is pretty clear just because your bias doesn't let you get pass it! [/B]
Like I give a toss what CBR thinks. I mean youre talking about a list that has Trish Walker but not Thor facepalm
Again lame assertions backed up by zero argumentation.
Just EVERYONE KNOWS.
Well guess what everyone knows Thor would smack off that fodder minions head with 1 punch, but you expect to see it happen to believe it. So its pretty clear whose bias here.
Thor by Visual Feats is better with weapons in H2H, and hes certainly better at evading hits.
Hes also like anywhere from 100-1000 times stronger than Worthy Cap so its all kinda moot in the end anyway.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Like I give a toss what CBR thinks. I mean youre talking about a list that has Trish Walker but not Thor facepalmAgain lame assertions backed up by zero argumentation.
Just EVERYONE KNOWS.
Well guess what everyone knows Thor would smack off that fodder minions head with 1 punch, but you expect to see it happen to believe it. So its pretty clear whose bias here.
Thor by Visual Feats is better with weapons in H2H, and hes certainly better at evading hits.
Hes also like anywhere from 100-1000 times stronger than Worthy Cap so its all kinda moot in the end anyway.
😂
Expert's opinion》》》》yours.
Sorry D.Thor, this is not up for debate. Not going to debate something EVERYONE with a clear judgement knows!
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
😂Expert's opinion》》》》yours.
Dude this is trolling. Watch the video. That expert is just judging specific scenes. And just giving his judgement on whats the most realistic.
Heck hes put Ramai Spider-Man above Thor. Dont be a joker taking that as some definitive ranking.
But I do agree with him on Black Panther showing a good combination of sword fighting skills and H2H. Thor has also shown that. Cap has not. Cap seems quite limited in close combat weapons training.
Originally posted by Silent Master
That expert didn't judge the Thor vs Hulk scene Darth Thor is talking about.
So, fighting The Hulk who is one of MCU's worse fighters makes Thor better than Cap!?
WHAT A JOKE!
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Dude this is trolling. Watch the video. That expert is just judging specific scenes. And just giving his judgement on whats the most realistic.Heck hes put Ramai Spider-Man above Thor. Dont be a joker taking that as some definitive ranking.
But I do agree with him on Black Panther showing a good combination of sword fighting skills and H2H. Thor has also shown that. Cap has not. Cap seems quite limited in close combat weapons training.
So CBR and the expert's opinion, alongside maybe what? 100 pages of Cap being a better fighter than Thor is wrong but you are correct?
I can definitely build my own case on how Cap is definitely way better than Thor in H2H and weapon's training, but why should I?
But why should I bother on the already accepted by the non-biased?