Worthy Cap vs. Ragnarok Thor

Started by Josh_Alexander15 pages
Originally posted by FrothByte
Problem with using Hulk for comparison is that Hulk never fought Ragnarok Thor. He got a taste of it towards the end of their gladiator fight and he seemed completely helpless against Ragnarok Thor. That was also the only time Thor used lightning on Hulk.

Hulk has never faced with a W.Cap either though.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Enduring Thanos who was obliterated by Hulk proves that W.Cap》Thor.

As simple as that.

P.S. Everyone here knows that Cap is the smarter and better fighter.

Wrong on all part.

Originally posted by SquallX
Wrong on all part.

Sorry, I meant to say that Thanos obliterated Hulk.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Enduring Thanos who was obliterated by Hulk proves that W.Cap》Thor.

As simple as that.

P.S. Everyone here knows that Cap is the smarter and better fighter.

I asked for a strength feat equal to smacking Hulk across the gladiator arena. You failed to provide one, so I accept your concession.

P.s. Saying "Everyone here knows" is not a legitimate argument. "Everyone" once knew" the Earth was flat as well, but without providing evidence, your claims are just that- claims.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I asked for a strength feat equal to smacking Hulk across the gladiator arena. You failed to provide one, so I accept your concession.

P.s. Saying "Everyone here knows" is not a legitimate argument. "Everyone" once knew" the Earth was flat as well, but without providing evidence, your claims are just that- claims.

Lol, W.Cap was smacking Thanos across 'the arena' with lightning too.

Thanos》Hulk.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol, W.Cap was smacking Thanos across 'the arena' with lightning too.

Thanos》Hulk.

So a swinging Mjolnir strike with a run up, and a lightning strike to send Thanos a few feet back.?

So Where exactly is the strength feat here to match smacking Hulk across the arena?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So a swinging Mjolnir strike with a run up, and a lightning strike to send Thanos a few feet back.?

So Where exactly is the strength feat here to match smacking Hulk across the arena?

"Strenght feat"?

So you assume that smacking Hulk with a charged fist is due to strenght alone?

You do realize that we even see a current of electricity going from Thor's arm to Hulk's face right?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
"Strenght feat"?

So you assume that smacking Hulk with a charged fist is due to strenght alone?

You do realize that we even see a current of electricity going from Thor's arm to Hulk's face right?

Do you actually watch my timestamps or do you just assume you know which scene I mean:

Originally posted by Darth Thor

Show me Cap physically being on this level @ 0:52:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcLmyi46VYA

YouTube video

Or concede the point.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Do you actually watch my timestamps or do you just assume you know which scene I mean:

0:52 was an impact with a hammer....

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
0:52 was an impact with a hammer....

If by Impact you mean a Physical attack with non-magical weapon then sure.

It was clearly a strength feat. Unless you think Hawkeye could do the same thing with that hammer?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If by Impact you mean a Physical attack with non-magical weapon then sure.

It was clearly a strength feat. Unless you think Hawkeye could do the same thing with that hammer?

You do realize that hitting with a hammer/tool amplifies the force..

Well, since W.Cap should be as strong as Thor, I don't see why he couldn't replicate it.

But I know you'll go against this, so I guess both threads have intertwined.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You do realize that hitting with a hammer/tool amplifies the strenght...

Well, since W.Cap should be as strong as Thor, I don't see why he couldn't replicate it.

But I know you'll go against this, so I guess both threads have intertwined.

Unless the weapon is harder than Thors fists, it certainly doesnt amplify the power of the strike.

Its a powerhouse strength feat, plain and simple. And not the only one. Shall we talk about durability?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Unless the weapon is harder than Thors fists, it certainly doesnt amplify the power of the strike.

Its a powerhouse strength feat, plain and simple. And not the only one. Shall we talk about durability?

Agree.

https://youtu.be/QLSG9Jn1Awg

2:13. Thor sends minions flying with one hand while Cap barely moves them with punches. 👆

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
https://youtu.be/QLSG9Jn1Awg

2:13. Thor sends minions flying with one hand while Cap barely moves them with punches. 👆

Wow, thats a pretty blatant difference. Great find 👆

But I wonder how the Jane Thor thing is gonna work if the enchantment doesnt give Thors strength to the Worthy?

Or maybe you guys are just flat out wrong and the hammer gives people the "power of Thor" just as the hammer says and just as it works in the comics.

Originally posted by ares834
Or maybe you guys are just flat out wrong and the hammer gives people the "power of Thor" just as the hammer says and just as it works in the comics.

Maybe, but its on screen feats only here. And that clip Grimes has posted is pretty damming evidence against Cap having Thor level strength.

So until Love and Thunder proves differently, theres really nothing showing that.

Also in comics theres been different ideas with different hammers. Thunderstrike for instance gave enhanced strength to Eric Masterson, but not even close to Thor level.

And the original Thor movie showed what Thor's powers were. When Odin stripped him of his power he lost his strength and durability, but when he became worthy and was able to wield Mjolnir he once more had those powers back. So yeah, the films already prove that the hammer grants strength and durability.

Originally posted by ares834
And the original Thor movie showed what Thor's powers were. When Odin stripped him of his power he lost his strength and durability, but when he became worthy and was able to wield Mjolnir he once more had those powers back. So yeah, the films already prove that the hammer grants strength and durability.

Sure didnt show that when they had Cap and Thor fighting side by side.

Anyway its against the forum rules which is on screen feats only. At most you can say it was implied in the enchantment. But it certainly wasnt shown in the fight scenes. If anything the opposite was shown.

I haven't been keeping track of the argument. but has anyone mentioned the fact that when Odin stripped Thor's powers. Thor no longer had super-strength and when his powers returned, so did his strength?