Could he TK it using a coat hanger? 😛
Kinda joking but kinda not. What if a telekinetic moves like a stick or something through the leather loop and then telekinetically lifts the stick? It's technically not directly trying to lift Mjolnir. Would Mjolnir get suspended in the air as a bi-product of the action? Or would the enchantment keep the stick from raising?
To expand on the point, we see the coat rack. And then we also have Tony and Steve joking about the elevator still going up with Mjolnir in it, in AoU. And I presume if Thor put Mjolnir down inside a quinjet, the quinjet could still take off. So, the enchantment doesn't seem to apply to the hammer being lifted by non-living means i.e. things to which the worthy enchantment can't really apply. So, if it gets lifted by something else that's being controlled by a telekinetic, force user etc., could the enchantment detect that the force from the thing lifting the hammer comes from a living 3rd party and kick the enchantment into action?
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Could he TK it using a coat hanger? 😛Kinda joking but kinda not. What if a telekinetic moves like a stick or something through the leather loop and then telekinetically lifts the stick? It's technically not directly trying to lift Mjolnir. Would Mjolnir get suspended in the air as a bi-product of the action? Or would the enchantment keep the stick from raising?
Considering that Mjolnir can't be lifted due to magic, and since the Force would be similar to magic, it should he able to lift it.
Isn't like Mjolnir is being literally lifted by matter or an object.
It's like saying that Mjolnir can't float on space.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Considering that Mjolnir can't be lifted due to magic, and since the Force would be similar to magic, it should he able to lift it.Isn't like Mjolnir is being literally lifted by matter or an object.
It's like saying that Mjolnir can't float on space.
Well, I was more thinking of trying to circumvent it completely. Like if Thor puts Mjolnir on pavement, can a telekinetic individual theoretically lift it by tearing the chunk of pavement out of the ground and levitate it with the hammer resting on top?
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, I was more thinking of trying to circumvent it completely. Like if Thor puts Mjolnir on pavement, can a telekinetic individual theoretically lift it by tearing the chunk of pavement out of the ground and levitate it with the hammer resting on top?
It's like the elevator joke Tony was teasing about in AoU....
Well, the Earth is moving and ergo moving Mjolnir so... I guess it could work.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Considering that Mjolnir can't be lifted due to magic, and since the Force would be similar to magic, it should he able to lift it.Isn't like Mjolnir is being literally lifted by matter or an object.
It's like saying that Mjolnir can't float on space.
The Force can’t lift the hammer, and you can’t prove that.
Originally posted by Silent Master
But the Earth is being moved by a person, it should be the same as a machine being unable to lift it if a person is controlling the machine.
Honestly I think that the plot holes in the various movies makes this a hard matter to solve.
In Thor 1 we saw a truck being unable to move it.
In TDW we saw Kurse, who isn't worthy, being able to change Mjolnir's direction.
So, I think the rules on what can move Mjolnir aren't clear.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, this would more support the theory that the telekinetic can't actually circumvent it that way. Because the enchantment could seemingly detect that the unworthy driver was trying to move it via the truck.
Can the spell detect the force though?
It wasn't detecting being moved by a Helicarrier in AV1.